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hello hello hello uh welcome back

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to

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the disclosure team youtube page um

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we're five days into the new year uh

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happy new year i guess i can still say

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that to everybody thank you to everybody

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that's here right now it's good to see

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you all

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um yeah it's really good to be back it

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feels a little bit strange i feel like

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i've been away for a long time even

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though it's probably only been a couple

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of weeks

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but i'm really good um i had a great

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holiday excuse me i hope you guys did

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too

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um

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for anybody that wants to listen to this

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on podcast audio only i these will now

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be going out for the month of january

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through that ufo podcast so if you

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wherever you listen to your podcasts

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apple podcasts or spotify for the month

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of january these will be available a

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couple of days after the youtube live

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through that ufo podcast then in

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february we were going

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we're going to be put out on the

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anomalous podcast network which is a new

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network being started by andy at that

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ufo podcast so look out for that um so

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yeah

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let's not waste any more time guys let's

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introduce our guest for today

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um i think you all know who he is he's

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got a great youtube channel i've spoken

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to him before

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here he is none other than chris leto

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chris how are you man yeah great thanks

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for having me vinnie thanks for having

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me on pleasure man i i i wanted you back

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for some time and i thought

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i wanted a really good conversation to

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start the the new year off and so you're

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the perfect choice

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awesome we'll see how that goes yeah

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thanks

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just to let everybody as well know in

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the live chat i can now highlight your

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questions and store them so it may be

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just to help the flow of the

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conversation that we store a lot of your

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questions till the end

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and that way we don't just keep like

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interrupting this this conversation

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we'll see how it goes you know this is

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the first time that option's been

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available so we'll just freestyle it and

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have a good time

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so chris

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did you have a good holiday i did man

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it's been awesome uh like we were saying

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just before as i i had to take a break

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i i didn't think of really uap stuff for

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literally two weeks like i just had to

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just literally take a mental break you

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know i've been working working on other

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projects but yeah it was it was great we

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had fan we had family friends in town

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uh traveled all around and uh yeah it

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was it was awesome

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yeah because you're in public school

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lagos just how they pronounce it

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it was it was rainy for a while you know

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you get a kind of this rainy about uh

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what would you call it 16 degrees

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celsius what is it that's good

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yeah for december is it yeah it's pretty

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so yeah but then it's been nice this

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past week yeah i was at i was surfing

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the day at the beach beautiful beach day

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i love it that you surf as well i love

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that whole thing i mean my you know my

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background is board sports as well so oh

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awesome totally dig it so yeah i'm not

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very good but i'm learning you know like

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first i couldn't i had a long board uh

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like dec uh ten years ago in california

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turkish i just surfed for one year

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uh and then i got a shorter board and i

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haven't been able to ride it you know

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because i just wasn't good enough uh 16.

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you know a 6 8 you know it's still six

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six actually i'm a short dude so six

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eight actually it's kind of it's a big

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board for me uh but i was able to ride

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it you know it's it's a short board but

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i love it

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love it love it love it um well listen

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you know we've spoken before on your

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channel my channel and that but we've

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not had a one-on-one before so i thought

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if it's okay with you we could just jump

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back a little bit into your background

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could you just talk us through your kind

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career a little bit

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and we can then jump on from there if

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that's okay excellent yeah i graduated

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air force academy in 2000

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i had a material science degree so it's

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a branch of chemistry there was only i

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um so it was a new degree i think

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there's much more now

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um and then

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good enough so i went to pilot training

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that's probably the biggest benefit of

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going to air force academy at least you

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know once you graduate biggest benefit

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so i i wanted to do something kind of

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different all the air force bases are in

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terrible locations uh and so i i went to

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the navy so i went navy training in

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uh did that um

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that took about a year and then you get

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selected in training you know depends

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how you do if they select uh the top

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cetera i graduated that and and then

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training there i met my wife

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uh and then from there we picked out of

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a hat actually and i picked number one

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korea that was i cut my teeth is what

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they say in south korea so you show up

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initial a combat ready wingman

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okay um and korea is just crazy place uh

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so crazy stories there man yeah i could

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definitely write a book about

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the stupid things we did there and yeah

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but also great flying and camaraderie

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and yeah just crazy place so from there

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on my only combat deployment actually

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uh i was with the triple nickel that's a

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famous fighter squadron 5 55th out of

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uh and yeah love the triple nickel i

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ended up flying with them in my last

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off and on so after italy went to uh

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alaska and from there i primarily went

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you know i wasn't a huge proponent of

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all the war you know i went and fought

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in iraq was we were very motivated

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to succeed we did want to i remember

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just really wanting to help all those

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people there to win you know to to

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basically stop the violence but you know

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if you're using violence to stop

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i think we've shown it doesn't usually

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up in alaska so red flag's a very large

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exercise where you practice

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so i was the you basically have the

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uh bad guys so the guys that you fight

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it was so it was so nerdy uh you go we

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you know we get access to all these

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intelligence materials and you can just

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as deep as you as you as you want or can

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into all that world essentially trying

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to find out what the bad guys do what

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our adversaries do

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and then to train our

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good or train our team against that

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right so we pretend you find out

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everything you can and then pretend to

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do that flying in alaska was just

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amazing flying it was it was so awesome

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we would fly clean jets you know with no

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tanks normally you have wing tanks that

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are under the jet so that um you can fly

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longer distances before you need to

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refuel

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well it impacts you right you can tell

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immediately if you're carrying wing

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tanks um

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uh et cetera so we would we would be

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able to fly clean which nothing on the

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uh because we had an air we had a

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refilling tanker right so we're

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there's only 12 of us there's like

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40 good guys right there's only 12 bad

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guys because when we die we just go back

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and touch a base you know

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we fly down like you know and then be

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like okay you're alive and then fly back

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so there's only 12 of us so we could

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and then i just had you know just had

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great um i just remember a great

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engagements off the tanker where i have

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a full tank of gas and a clean viper you

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know and i just go supersonic

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as fast as it can go

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and then just run these guys down you

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normally you're limited by a supersonic

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just so loud you know you can't we can't

280
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just

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if you sonic boom over a city it's a

282
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it's a report right you you get in

283
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trouble

284
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yeah so so a lot of these guys aren't

285
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used to going mach 2 or close to it you

286
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know so we would get up to mach one five

287
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you know one seven

288
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the festive one was 1.83 that was off

289
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one of those tanker runs you know and so

290
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they think they're safe you know they

291
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bomb target they're running away uh and

292
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then you're coming twice as fast as them

293
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you know

294
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because they're going almost supersonic

295
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so they think they're safe right and you

296
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can just catch up on them and yeah it

297
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was cool so

298
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really enjoyed that yeah so when when

299
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you're in combat are you do you have are

300
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you clean or do you have fuel tanks then

301
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or does the ordinance balance the weight

302
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distribution out like what's the

303
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difference that you would have in combat

304
00:10:27,750 --> 00:10:26,000
yeah it's all well combat is all you

305
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know weapons so be like what's your

306
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weapon loadout going to be and

307
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yeah there's only certain configurations

308
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that can fit on the airplanes

309
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um and then your fuel is

310
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we kind of have a standard configuration

311
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we have an air-to-air configuration and

312
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an air-to-ground configuration right um

313
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because if you actually merge with

314
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someone in combat there is a button it's

315
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a emergency stores button

316
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okay

317
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and if you get into a position where

318
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you're not easily going to win right or

319
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you think there's a chance you could get

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shot

321
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then you push this emergency stores

322
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button and it drops your bombs and your

323
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fuel tanks

324
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wow right just some more nimble

325
00:11:08,470 --> 00:11:06,800
maneuverability yeah so you go right to

326
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that clean jet i was talking about you

327
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know maybe you have the missiles on on

328
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the tips um the tips of the wings

329
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but you're very maneuverable but you

330
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lost all your payload right your your

331
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bombs and if you're a bomb dropper your

332
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goal is to deliver the bombs

333
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um

334
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you know on the target so

335
00:11:25,509 --> 00:11:23,680
you don't want to drop them so those

336
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guys you know in an exercise you would

337
00:11:28,630 --> 00:11:26,959
push those guys away from from the

338
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air-to-air fighters because they are

339
00:11:31,590 --> 00:11:29,839
aired air fighters they're not going to

340
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carry bombs they're going to prioritize

341
00:11:35,269 --> 00:11:33,120
just air-to-air weapons because they're

342
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much lighter faster um

343
00:11:39,430 --> 00:11:37,200
et cetera yeah so it's just without

344
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sounding too stupid is an f-16 a

345
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single-seater you don't have a wizard or

346
00:11:46,069 --> 00:11:44,079
anything do you yeah uh it's single seat

347
00:11:48,470 --> 00:11:46,079
primarily they i think the israelis they

348
00:11:50,790 --> 00:11:48,480
put in a back seat and put in a whizzo

349
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oh okay um so there's some

350
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they modified it

351
00:11:55,990 --> 00:11:54,320
cool the reason why i'm really

352
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interested in all of this kind of talk

353
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as well is because a lot of times we

354
00:12:02,710 --> 00:12:01,120
hear the phrase trained observer

355
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now

356
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i there's always that debate about

357
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commander fraver and alex dietrich with

358
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the nimitz case about

359
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you know even pilots can make mistakes

360
00:12:13,190 --> 00:12:11,600
when they're witnessing things can you

361
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talk to the

362
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or about the kind of

363
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you know what are the chances of

364
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misconceiving you know a strange object

365
00:12:25,269 --> 00:12:22,480
for another jet for example how much

366
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could you detect another f-16

367
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through flair or anything compared to an

368
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anomalous object

369
00:12:32,550 --> 00:12:30,240
do you know what you know you know where

370
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i'm coming from

371
00:12:35,750 --> 00:12:34,399
yeah i mean

372
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i would say for sure you know i've heard

373
00:12:40,470 --> 00:12:37,839
that a lot too about the professional

374
00:12:43,350 --> 00:12:40,480
observers um you heard that in defense

375
00:12:46,470 --> 00:12:43,360
of fravor and and those guys and

376
00:12:48,310 --> 00:12:46,480
actually i do i have to agree with it um

377
00:12:51,110 --> 00:12:48,320
you know most all the training that that

378
00:12:52,790 --> 00:12:51,120
we get is is sight picture based

379
00:12:53,829 --> 00:12:52,800
so it's basically what do you see and

380
00:12:56,150 --> 00:12:53,839
what do you do

381
00:12:57,990 --> 00:12:56,160
especially when you get into the um

382
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within visual range dog fighting when i

383
00:13:00,949 --> 00:12:59,440
talked about you know if you go to punch

384
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tanks

385
00:13:05,430 --> 00:13:03,839
then really that's what all of your

386
00:13:07,590 --> 00:13:05,440
systems are designed so that you can

387
00:13:08,629 --> 00:13:07,600
look outside you know the hotas

388
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the the

389
00:13:13,910 --> 00:13:11,360
on the helmet mounted site um you know

390
00:13:15,829 --> 00:13:13,920
it's all cued so you can look at the

391
00:13:19,190 --> 00:13:15,839
at the adversary right because it's a

392
00:13:21,829 --> 00:13:19,200
famous axiom lose sight lose the fight

393
00:13:23,590 --> 00:13:21,839
uh and i have yeah it's true like yeah

394
00:13:25,110 --> 00:13:23,600
if you lose sight of them yeah it's

395
00:13:26,710 --> 00:13:25,120
embarrassing it's very uncomfortable and

396
00:13:28,870 --> 00:13:26,720
you will lose you know in about 20

397
00:13:29,990 --> 00:13:28,880
seconds um

398
00:13:31,750 --> 00:13:30,000
and so

399
00:13:33,190 --> 00:13:31,760
just from that perspective we're very

400
00:13:35,509 --> 00:13:33,200
used to

401
00:13:38,069 --> 00:13:35,519
to seeing those

402
00:13:39,750 --> 00:13:38,079
objects at crazy distances right so you

403
00:13:41,750 --> 00:13:39,760
know at five nautical miles i know you

404
00:13:43,110 --> 00:13:41,760
can you can barely pick up but a plane

405
00:13:45,030 --> 00:13:43,120
looks like a dot

406
00:13:46,150 --> 00:13:45,040
um and that happened to my friend

407
00:13:47,509 --> 00:13:46,160
actually he was in one of those

408
00:13:49,750 --> 00:13:47,519
engagements i was talking about off the

409
00:13:51,829 --> 00:13:49,760
tanker he was going mach 1.8 or

410
00:13:53,189 --> 00:13:51,839
something ridic he was he's crazy he was

411
00:13:55,430 --> 00:13:53,199
going very fast

412
00:13:57,509 --> 00:13:55,440
and there was an f-22 he was getting

413
00:14:00,550 --> 00:13:57,519
vectored onto right and everybody wants

414
00:14:04,389 --> 00:14:00,560
to shoot the f-22s right

415
00:14:06,069 --> 00:14:04,399
what he said was he saw it as a dot um

416
00:14:07,590 --> 00:14:06,079
he saw a dot

417
00:14:09,590 --> 00:14:07,600
and then he

418
00:14:11,590 --> 00:14:09,600
went in to try and shoot it and and

419
00:14:14,069 --> 00:14:11,600
literally 10 seconds later i think they

420
00:14:16,949 --> 00:14:14,079
they they passed like very you know not

421
00:14:19,430 --> 00:14:16,959
close but close enough yeah um so you're

422
00:14:21,030 --> 00:14:19,440
just not used to that um you know people

423
00:14:22,470 --> 00:14:21,040
aren't used to you've never looked for

424
00:14:24,550 --> 00:14:22,480
something that's five miles away and

425
00:14:26,230 --> 00:14:24,560
then gate you know watched

426
00:14:27,430 --> 00:14:26,240
seen it come close to you in that amount

427
00:14:31,269 --> 00:14:27,440
of time

428
00:14:32,550 --> 00:14:31,279
sure um just in the air environment um

429
00:14:34,949 --> 00:14:32,560
and then especially i was thinking about

430
00:14:36,389 --> 00:14:34,959
fravor especially because um

431
00:14:38,230 --> 00:14:36,399
you know i've flown with those guys i

432
00:14:41,189 --> 00:14:38,240
mentioned flavor before you know i'm not

433
00:14:42,829 --> 00:14:41,199
like fravor's caliber i think of weapon

434
00:14:46,629 --> 00:14:42,839
school you know

435
00:14:47,670 --> 00:14:46,639
um in the books detail-oriented how to

436
00:14:51,269 --> 00:14:47,680
is

437
00:14:54,150 --> 00:14:51,279
single little

438
00:14:56,310 --> 00:14:54,160
uh key point in the book

439
00:14:58,710 --> 00:14:56,320
uh all the tactical manuals you know

440
00:15:00,629 --> 00:14:58,720
that level you know uh i think for me

441
00:15:02,710 --> 00:15:00,639
would be more like breaking in case of

442
00:15:05,430 --> 00:15:02,720
glass you know like we need we're losing

443
00:15:06,949 --> 00:15:05,440
the war you know like what do we need

444
00:15:08,629 --> 00:15:06,959
and then

445
00:15:10,629 --> 00:15:08,639
you know that or

446
00:15:13,269 --> 00:15:10,639
i don't know that would be my at least

447
00:15:15,269 --> 00:15:13,279
i hope anyway um but so for fraver i

448
00:15:17,590 --> 00:15:15,279
think they're especially him where he

449
00:15:19,750 --> 00:15:17,600
was at in his position in his career

450
00:15:20,550 --> 00:15:19,760
where he went to weapon school

451
00:15:22,550 --> 00:15:20,560
um

452
00:15:23,750 --> 00:15:22,560
they get so much training just on visual

453
00:15:25,430 --> 00:15:23,760
ids

454
00:15:26,949 --> 00:15:25,440
how to id different aircraft like every

455
00:15:28,710 --> 00:15:26,959
bathroom and every bathroom in a fighter

456
00:15:30,150 --> 00:15:28,720
squadron you know

457
00:15:33,670 --> 00:15:30,160
sit on the toilet and there's going to

458
00:15:36,389 --> 00:15:33,680
be a list you know little pixels or

459
00:15:37,829 --> 00:15:36,399
pictures sorry of different planes right

460
00:15:39,509 --> 00:15:37,839
different aspects

461
00:15:43,430 --> 00:15:39,519
ranges you know it'll be like a little

462
00:15:46,470 --> 00:15:43,440
dot like this you know or a few pixels

463
00:15:49,189 --> 00:15:46,480
um so it's just common to do that that

464
00:15:51,269 --> 00:15:49,199
that that is what we do um

465
00:15:54,069 --> 00:15:51,279
that being said yeah of course mistakes

466
00:15:56,870 --> 00:15:54,079
happen right you had the um

467
00:15:57,990 --> 00:15:56,880
uh the f-15 right shot down the uh

468
00:16:00,870 --> 00:15:58,000
blackhawk

469
00:16:03,189 --> 00:16:00,880
you know he id'd it uh he id'd it as

470
00:16:05,590 --> 00:16:03,199
hostile as a hind

471
00:16:06,470 --> 00:16:05,600
but it was obviously a blackhawk um

472
00:16:08,150 --> 00:16:06,480
so

473
00:16:09,030 --> 00:16:08,160
and they never let that down of course

474
00:16:10,389 --> 00:16:09,040
um

475
00:16:12,389 --> 00:16:10,399
yeah cause in the hind a lot bigger than

476
00:16:14,710 --> 00:16:12,399
a blackhawk

477
00:16:16,069 --> 00:16:14,720
uh it's i don't think it's much bigger

478
00:16:18,230 --> 00:16:16,079
um but it's definitely the shape is

479
00:16:20,389 --> 00:16:18,240
definitely different um yeah

480
00:16:25,670 --> 00:16:20,399
yeah so

481
00:16:28,069 --> 00:16:25,680
they are trained observers he's

482
00:16:29,990 --> 00:16:28,079
definitely especially in his career what

483
00:16:33,269 --> 00:16:30,000
he's seen and how much instruction he's

484
00:16:35,030 --> 00:16:33,279
given um basic instruction

485
00:16:36,790 --> 00:16:35,040
yeah i'd say i'd say

486
00:16:38,310 --> 00:16:36,800
that's that's in his interview is really

487
00:16:39,189 --> 00:16:38,320
the one that that changed me you know

488
00:16:40,710 --> 00:16:39,199
that

489
00:16:42,150 --> 00:16:40,720
changed my viewpoint on the whole thing

490
00:16:43,110 --> 00:16:42,160
you know when i heard that i was like

491
00:16:44,069 --> 00:16:43,120
okay

492
00:16:46,310 --> 00:16:44,079
yeah

493
00:16:48,069 --> 00:16:46,320
so what's your take on the the flare one

494
00:16:49,590 --> 00:16:48,079
the tic tac video out of the out of the

495
00:16:52,230 --> 00:16:49,600
three navy videos let's focus on that

496
00:16:53,829 --> 00:16:52,240
one you know do you

497
00:16:55,350 --> 00:16:53,839
do you think it's

498
00:16:58,710 --> 00:16:55,360
something anomalous could it be

499
00:17:03,110 --> 00:17:00,550
i mean yeah the biggest thing for me on

500
00:17:05,270 --> 00:17:03,120
that video right because

501
00:17:06,870 --> 00:17:05,280
the scu they they did a big

502
00:17:10,230 --> 00:17:06,880
investigation in it and i kind of

503
00:17:14,549 --> 00:17:13,029
uh because i think the video

504
00:17:16,230 --> 00:17:14,559
itself

505
00:17:17,909 --> 00:17:16,240
probably the actually looking back like

506
00:17:19,909 --> 00:17:17,919
the biggest anomalous part of it is kind

507
00:17:23,350 --> 00:17:19,919
of the first half of that video

508
00:17:24,470 --> 00:17:23,360
where you just see like this circle

509
00:17:25,750 --> 00:17:24,480
ball

510
00:17:27,990 --> 00:17:25,760
yeah um

511
00:17:30,950 --> 00:17:28,000
and and you know i've been in i've been

512
00:17:32,950 --> 00:17:30,960
investigating this week um about balls

513
00:17:34,230 --> 00:17:32,960
et cetera you know basically these orbs

514
00:17:35,270 --> 00:17:34,240
you know because we saw like the a-10

515
00:17:37,510 --> 00:17:35,280
video

516
00:17:40,230 --> 00:17:37,520
right i mean that thing clearly just an

517
00:17:43,270 --> 00:17:40,240
orb you had dave falch's video

518
00:17:45,750 --> 00:17:43,280
um he did say i could uh basically

519
00:17:47,590 --> 00:17:45,760
uh uh or re-list the video that we had

520
00:17:48,789 --> 00:17:47,600
before

521
00:17:51,029 --> 00:17:48,799
so um

522
00:17:52,789 --> 00:17:51,039
yes you have his orb right and then i've

523
00:17:54,390 --> 00:17:52,799
been you look at all these other kind of

524
00:17:56,230 --> 00:17:54,400
orb videos so

525
00:17:58,070 --> 00:17:56,240
looking at flear it does kind of look

526
00:17:58,870 --> 00:17:58,080
like that you know at the beginning

527
00:18:01,029 --> 00:17:58,880
sure

528
00:18:02,630 --> 00:18:01,039
yeah so that that's probably the best

529
00:18:04,230 --> 00:18:02,640
anomalous part of it and then the other

530
00:18:06,070 --> 00:18:04,240
part of it is

531
00:18:07,510 --> 00:18:06,080
when they don't find anything you know

532
00:18:09,830 --> 00:18:07,520
because you know like so many things are

533
00:18:11,110 --> 00:18:09,840
out there

534
00:18:12,070 --> 00:18:11,120
the fact that they couldn't find

535
00:18:13,750 --> 00:18:12,080
anything

536
00:18:15,669 --> 00:18:13,760
and he's flying with a fighter there and

537
00:18:17,430 --> 00:18:15,679
he had a vector um towards that

538
00:18:19,830 --> 00:18:17,440
direction

539
00:18:21,350 --> 00:18:19,840
it's very strange to me you know

540
00:18:23,990 --> 00:18:21,360
uh because that's what that's what you

541
00:18:25,669 --> 00:18:24,000
do as a as a fighter if you're doing

542
00:18:27,909 --> 00:18:25,679
air-to-air combat it's basically you

543
00:18:29,990 --> 00:18:27,919
know how can we fly in a formation not

544
00:18:32,070 --> 00:18:30,000
hit each other and then target and shoot

545
00:18:34,230 --> 00:18:32,080
another aircraft you know right yeah and

546
00:18:36,070 --> 00:18:34,240
that's all the practice is and

547
00:18:38,310 --> 00:18:36,080
especially if if all those assets were

548
00:18:39,110 --> 00:18:38,320
out there for this air defense exercise

549
00:18:40,390 --> 00:18:39,120
so

550
00:18:42,070 --> 00:18:40,400
what they're going to be practicing is

551
00:18:44,070 --> 00:18:42,080
just vectoring people onto each other

552
00:18:45,750 --> 00:18:44,080
you know yeah

553
00:18:47,830 --> 00:18:45,760
they're practicing as well so the the

554
00:18:49,350 --> 00:18:47,840
controllers on the princeton they're i'm

555
00:18:51,270 --> 00:18:49,360
sorry on well maybe the princeton as

556
00:18:53,110 --> 00:18:51,280
well is going to be vectoring them

557
00:18:54,950 --> 00:18:53,120
but the final controllers is probably

558
00:18:56,390 --> 00:18:54,960
the hawkeye you know they're up

559
00:18:58,310 --> 00:18:56,400
those are the controllers they have the

560
00:19:00,710 --> 00:18:58,320
look down

561
00:19:01,909 --> 00:19:00,720
they're closer yeah um

562
00:19:03,909 --> 00:19:01,919
i don't know you know i've only worked

563
00:19:06,150 --> 00:19:03,919
with the navy a few times um but i'm

564
00:19:07,669 --> 00:19:06,160
pretty sure the hawkeye was doing the

565
00:19:10,630 --> 00:19:07,679
vectoring and the control

566
00:19:12,390 --> 00:19:10,640
yeah i think they have very good radars

567
00:19:14,070 --> 00:19:12,400
interesting man so let's just stick with

568
00:19:16,950 --> 00:19:14,080
the navy videos and jump on just to get

569
00:19:18,950 --> 00:19:16,960
your views briefly on go fast and gimbal

570
00:19:21,110 --> 00:19:18,960
does anything stand out about them that

571
00:19:24,870 --> 00:19:21,120
tells you that it it's not interesting

572
00:19:26,870 --> 00:19:24,880
or that it is particularly interesting

573
00:19:29,750 --> 00:19:26,880
well yeah i was just looking at gimbal

574
00:19:31,909 --> 00:19:29,760
um again this week because

575
00:19:33,590 --> 00:19:31,919
so i basically you know one of the mick

576
00:19:35,909 --> 00:19:33,600
west supporters i'm assuming since i see

577
00:19:37,029 --> 00:19:35,919
him on a few of my through my videos he

578
00:19:38,950 --> 00:19:37,039
was saying yeah if you cover up the

579
00:19:40,789 --> 00:19:38,960
gimbal and then you mark down when when

580
00:19:42,950 --> 00:19:40,799
it when it feels to you like the camera

581
00:19:45,270 --> 00:19:42,960
is rotating then look underneath and

582
00:19:46,870 --> 00:19:45,280
you'll see the object rotating

583
00:19:49,110 --> 00:19:46,880
uh and that's been the first time i've

584
00:19:50,710 --> 00:19:49,120
actually understood even seen their

585
00:19:52,470 --> 00:19:50,720
argument that it that it's actually

586
00:19:53,909 --> 00:19:52,480
rotating have you have you seen that

587
00:19:55,669 --> 00:19:53,919
have you tried it or

588
00:19:56,630 --> 00:19:55,679
i don't know i've not tried it i do keep

589
00:19:58,870 --> 00:19:56,640
up with

590
00:20:00,630 --> 00:19:58,880
both sides of this back and forth

591
00:20:02,789 --> 00:20:00,640
absolutely

592
00:20:04,230 --> 00:20:02,799
yeah and you know it and i did it and i

593
00:20:06,470 --> 00:20:04,240
and i was like yeah actually it does

594
00:20:07,909 --> 00:20:06,480
seem like it kind of lines up you know

595
00:20:09,590 --> 00:20:07,919
like it actually is related to the

596
00:20:11,590 --> 00:20:09,600
rotational mechanism

597
00:20:13,270 --> 00:20:11,600
um but when we when we talked to the app

598
00:20:15,430 --> 00:20:13,280
flare experts

599
00:20:17,750 --> 00:20:15,440
and another mechanical engineer that did

600
00:20:19,590 --> 00:20:17,760
this investigation into it

601
00:20:20,310 --> 00:20:19,600
basically that's not possible right they

602
00:20:22,149 --> 00:20:20,320
didn't

603
00:20:24,710 --> 00:20:22,159
that it can't rotate

604
00:20:26,630 --> 00:20:24,720
um so i'm i'm almost leaning where it's

605
00:20:29,270 --> 00:20:26,640
somewhere in between

606
00:20:31,190 --> 00:20:29,280
where actually what we're seeing is

607
00:20:33,510 --> 00:20:31,200
you're seeing a glare that an app flare

608
00:20:34,630 --> 00:20:33,520
expert basically the guy who put these

609
00:20:37,029 --> 00:20:34,640
systems

610
00:20:39,350 --> 00:20:37,039
together doesn't think it's possible

611
00:20:41,750 --> 00:20:39,360
right um and i think maybe that is

612
00:20:43,669 --> 00:20:41,760
actually rotating um

613
00:20:45,909 --> 00:20:43,679
or could be

614
00:20:47,590 --> 00:20:45,919
still to be said though is that what i

615
00:20:50,470 --> 00:20:47,600
think is you're seeing this we're seeing

616
00:20:53,350 --> 00:20:50,480
an orb um if that's what it is one of

617
00:20:54,390 --> 00:20:53,360
these weird orbs is is what i'm thinking

618
00:20:55,510 --> 00:20:54,400
it is

619
00:20:58,230 --> 00:20:55,520
um

620
00:21:00,710 --> 00:20:58,240
instead of a full shaped you know saucer

621
00:21:03,270 --> 00:21:00,720
flying saucer yeah it could be again i

622
00:21:05,270 --> 00:21:03,280
just i did it just for a few minutes um

623
00:21:08,230 --> 00:21:05,280
uh yesterday so

624
00:21:10,390 --> 00:21:08,240
uh yeah but what i what i i think the

625
00:21:12,710 --> 00:21:10,400
gimbal for sure showed that it's it's

626
00:21:14,149 --> 00:21:12,720
inside of 10 nautical miles you know

627
00:21:16,390 --> 00:21:14,159
based on the geometry because they're

628
00:21:18,549 --> 00:21:16,400
turning i'm able to prove hey they're

629
00:21:21,430 --> 00:21:18,559
inside this thing's things inside of 10

630
00:21:23,669 --> 00:21:21,440
nautical miles or it's going like mach 2

631
00:21:24,950 --> 00:21:23,679
or mach 5 far away or something so yeah

632
00:21:26,230 --> 00:21:24,960
because they've talked about 20 miles

633
00:21:27,430 --> 00:21:26,240
and things like that as well haven't

634
00:21:29,830 --> 00:21:27,440
they um

635
00:21:31,990 --> 00:21:29,840
so it's good to know

636
00:21:33,909 --> 00:21:32,000
interesting yeah if it's outside of 10

637
00:21:35,830 --> 00:21:33,919
nautical miles you know it's same thing

638
00:21:36,950 --> 00:21:35,840
like if your track if you're

639
00:21:39,350 --> 00:21:36,960
you know

640
00:21:40,230 --> 00:21:39,360
shooting something with a shotgun or

641
00:21:41,590 --> 00:21:40,240
whatever

642
00:21:44,070 --> 00:21:41,600
um

643
00:21:45,830 --> 00:21:44,080
you know if it's if it's 100 feet away

644
00:21:47,110 --> 00:21:45,840
you got to move this fast but if it's

645
00:21:48,789 --> 00:21:47,120
you know a mile away you're not even

646
00:21:51,190 --> 00:21:48,799
going to move or if it's closer you're

647
00:21:53,270 --> 00:21:51,200
going to move faster right sure so same

648
00:21:55,430 --> 00:21:53,280
thing same thing with that so luckily

649
00:21:57,510 --> 00:21:55,440
that one was turning

650
00:21:59,590 --> 00:21:57,520
because if it wasn't turning

651
00:22:01,350 --> 00:21:59,600
then you know it'd be more difficult to

652
00:22:03,110 --> 00:22:01,360
prove that it's actually

653
00:22:04,310 --> 00:22:03,120
you know within that range because

654
00:22:05,909 --> 00:22:04,320
that's really what you're trying to

655
00:22:07,750 --> 00:22:05,919
that's the issue right and that's how

656
00:22:09,830 --> 00:22:07,760
you shoot stuff you need you need how

657
00:22:10,630 --> 00:22:09,840
far away it is and you need the angle to

658
00:22:11,830 --> 00:22:10,640
it

659
00:22:14,390 --> 00:22:11,840
right and

660
00:22:15,830 --> 00:22:14,400
yeah if it's if it's stationary yeah

661
00:22:18,710 --> 00:22:15,840
the christian race is a good point here

662
00:22:21,510 --> 00:22:18,720
saying the pilot's saying it's rotating

663
00:22:22,230 --> 00:22:21,520
now is he seeing just the outflav view

664
00:22:23,669 --> 00:22:22,240
or

665
00:22:25,270 --> 00:22:23,679
i mean that's what i've

666
00:22:26,549 --> 00:22:25,280
i still haven't been able to track that

667
00:22:28,390 --> 00:22:26,559
down

668
00:22:30,230 --> 00:22:28,400
because that's interesting isn't it

669
00:22:30,950 --> 00:22:30,240
i think he's looking at it when he said

670
00:22:32,310 --> 00:22:30,960
it

671
00:22:34,070 --> 00:22:32,320
i think he's looking at the i'm sorry

672
00:22:36,470 --> 00:22:34,080
the uh the video i think he's watching

673
00:22:37,510 --> 00:22:36,480
the video right saying it's rotating

674
00:22:40,350 --> 00:22:37,520
because

675
00:22:43,830 --> 00:22:40,360
so i did the math i did it went to

676
00:22:45,590 --> 00:22:43,840
6.7 6.8 nautical miles let's call it 6.9

677
00:22:48,310 --> 00:22:45,600
nautical miles right

678
00:22:50,070 --> 00:22:48,320
and so you're at that range

679
00:22:52,549 --> 00:22:50,080
like i mentioned before you know that

680
00:22:54,870 --> 00:22:52,559
fighter that my buddy merged with

681
00:22:55,830 --> 00:22:54,880
yeah it was just a dot at five nautical

682
00:22:57,750 --> 00:22:55,840
miles

683
00:22:59,430 --> 00:22:57,760
wow um so if this thing's at six point

684
00:23:01,350 --> 00:22:59,440
nine

685
00:23:02,870 --> 00:23:01,360
it depends if

686
00:23:04,149 --> 00:23:02,880
it's gonna be difficult to see right and

687
00:23:07,270 --> 00:23:04,159
i um he's probably not gonna be able to

688
00:23:09,190 --> 00:23:07,280
see rotation for sure it's my guess

689
00:23:11,190 --> 00:23:09,200
that's really interesting man yeah and

690
00:23:12,710 --> 00:23:11,200
it's those small fine points that really

691
00:23:14,549 --> 00:23:12,720
could sway this

692
00:23:17,029 --> 00:23:14,559
whole conversation this whole back and

693
00:23:18,870 --> 00:23:17,039
forth you know it's tough well more data

694
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:18,880
would definitely help like that's what i

695
00:23:26,230 --> 00:23:24,710
[Music]

696
00:23:28,070 --> 00:23:26,240
when i start when i start the plane i

697
00:23:30,630 --> 00:23:28,080
turn the tapes on and then when i shut

698
00:23:32,549 --> 00:23:30,640
down i sometimes i forget or i turn them

699
00:23:34,070 --> 00:23:32,559
you know usually i turn them off but

700
00:23:35,510 --> 00:23:34,080
yeah we leave them running

701
00:23:38,310 --> 00:23:35,520
so you're more likely to get too much

702
00:23:39,110 --> 00:23:38,320
footage than not enough yes yeah yeah

703
00:23:40,870 --> 00:23:39,120
and

704
00:23:43,110 --> 00:23:40,880
i think they cut it

705
00:23:45,510 --> 00:23:43,120
to make it too short and then it got

706
00:23:47,990 --> 00:23:45,520
passed over so i don't know

707
00:23:50,630 --> 00:23:48,000
from 2004 i doubt there's more video you

708
00:23:53,350 --> 00:23:50,640
know back then they had real tapes um so

709
00:23:55,350 --> 00:23:53,360
it was harder but 2015 like gimbal go

710
00:23:57,830 --> 00:23:55,360
fast for sure they have

711
00:23:59,830 --> 00:23:57,840
somewhere is the full video

712
00:24:01,830 --> 00:23:59,840
um so there's some big digital files

713
00:24:03,190 --> 00:24:01,840
stored somewhere

714
00:24:04,549 --> 00:24:03,200
and which is curious too because what

715
00:24:06,870 --> 00:24:04,559
happened after that right because that

716
00:24:08,789 --> 00:24:06,880
thing was only going around 250 knots so

717
00:24:10,070 --> 00:24:08,799
from the math i did it was around

718
00:24:11,430 --> 00:24:10,080
seven miles away and it was going like

719
00:24:13,669 --> 00:24:11,440
250 knots

720
00:24:15,430 --> 00:24:13,679
the same speed as the fighters

721
00:24:17,110 --> 00:24:15,440
um and they're on an intercept they were

722
00:24:18,950 --> 00:24:17,120
intercepting it so

723
00:24:21,110 --> 00:24:18,960
i'm curious what happened right so did

724
00:24:23,590 --> 00:24:21,120
they intercept it or did it fly away

725
00:24:24,870 --> 00:24:23,600
faster than them or disappear you know

726
00:24:26,310 --> 00:24:24,880
that's where it's like the same with

727
00:24:27,990 --> 00:24:26,320
flear

728
00:24:29,190 --> 00:24:28,000
um you know

729
00:24:30,870 --> 00:24:29,200
where did it go

730
00:24:32,310 --> 00:24:30,880
that's that's the question

731
00:24:34,149 --> 00:24:32,320
where did it go i suppose the thing with

732
00:24:36,470 --> 00:24:34,159
gimbal as well is that there was a whole

733
00:24:37,830 --> 00:24:36,480
fleet of them on on

734
00:24:40,070 --> 00:24:37,840
on the sa

735
00:24:41,110 --> 00:24:40,080
that's right yes yeah

736
00:24:41,909 --> 00:24:41,120
yeah

737
00:24:44,710 --> 00:24:41,919
so

738
00:24:47,029 --> 00:24:44,720
in that case um

739
00:24:48,710 --> 00:24:47,039
you know and actually i

740
00:24:51,190 --> 00:24:48,720
at the beginning i

741
00:24:52,549 --> 00:24:51,200
i was mick west you know i i don't know

742
00:24:54,149 --> 00:24:52,559
if there's anger towards them or

743
00:24:55,750 --> 00:24:54,159
anything but um

744
00:24:56,789 --> 00:24:55,760
it's hard hearing all debunking stuff

745
00:24:58,870 --> 00:24:56,799
you know it changes your view you're

746
00:25:01,110 --> 00:24:58,880
like so sure about something

747
00:25:02,789 --> 00:25:01,120
and then you hear something and it it

748
00:25:05,269 --> 00:25:02,799
hurts you know you're like yeah that

749
00:25:06,710 --> 00:25:05,279
hurt you know i watched that

750
00:25:09,029 --> 00:25:06,720
you know i've made several videos saying

751
00:25:10,870 --> 00:25:09,039
hey it definitely rotates you know

752
00:25:13,190 --> 00:25:10,880
um but when you see something like that

753
00:25:14,710 --> 00:25:13,200
i'm like oh man dang that you know

754
00:25:16,230 --> 00:25:14,720
that's right that's finally right and he

755
00:25:17,430 --> 00:25:16,240
was

756
00:25:19,590 --> 00:25:17,440
no one else explained it like that

757
00:25:21,590 --> 00:25:19,600
before and i didn't just randomly try it

758
00:25:23,350 --> 00:25:21,600
uh but i will you know in the next one

759
00:25:24,950 --> 00:25:23,360
um of course man you've got to try every

760
00:25:27,909 --> 00:25:24,960
opportunity and every little

761
00:25:29,830 --> 00:25:27,919
change in hypotheses and i i guess you

762
00:25:31,590 --> 00:25:29,840
know i think that's why

763
00:25:33,830 --> 00:25:31,600
yeah well i think that's why we as the

764
00:25:36,070 --> 00:25:33,840
outsiders have seen this back and forth

765
00:25:37,750 --> 00:25:36,080
let's say for quite some time now

766
00:25:38,630 --> 00:25:37,760
but it's good it's a good thing and i

767
00:25:40,830 --> 00:25:38,640
like

768
00:25:42,630 --> 00:25:40,840
that i mean i've spoken to mick

769
00:25:44,230 --> 00:25:42,640
um

770
00:25:46,630 --> 00:25:44,240
yeah i mean i'm not mathematically

771
00:25:48,310 --> 00:25:46,640
inclined to be able to say yes or no i i

772
00:25:49,750 --> 00:25:48,320
don't agree with you but i think it

773
00:25:51,590 --> 00:25:49,760
sounds like he's

774
00:25:53,269 --> 00:25:51,600
clinging on to things with

775
00:25:55,029 --> 00:25:53,279
but ignoring other things that's the

776
00:25:57,430 --> 00:25:55,039
kind of impression that i've i've gotten

777
00:25:58,789 --> 00:25:57,440
i know a lot of other people have but

778
00:26:00,390 --> 00:25:58,799
yeah i don't know

779
00:26:02,789 --> 00:26:00,400
yeah but i think i think it comes down

780
00:26:04,789 --> 00:26:02,799
to the lack of data as well

781
00:26:06,390 --> 00:26:04,799
yeah i i mean i appreciate if they when

782
00:26:08,630 --> 00:26:06,400
they point things out that are correct

783
00:26:10,470 --> 00:26:08,640
i'm i'm grateful for them you know like

784
00:26:13,190 --> 00:26:10,480
it doesn't waste my time like the he

785
00:26:15,269 --> 00:26:13,200
made an excellent video about the um

786
00:26:17,190 --> 00:26:15,279
the the three row

787
00:26:19,590 --> 00:26:17,200
have you seen you know the three row uh

788
00:26:20,630 --> 00:26:19,600
those red orbs that are coming out in a

789
00:26:22,630 --> 00:26:20,640
in a row

790
00:26:25,029 --> 00:26:22,640
is that the south china sea one from

791
00:26:27,510 --> 00:26:25,039
recently yeah without trying to see one

792
00:26:28,549 --> 00:26:27,520
um he made a video

793
00:26:30,230 --> 00:26:28,559
uh

794
00:26:32,070 --> 00:26:30,240
like two days after the day after that

795
00:26:33,590 --> 00:26:32,080
came out and i thought it was spot on

796
00:26:36,390 --> 00:26:33,600
you know to me it looks just like flares

797
00:26:38,470 --> 00:26:36,400
like exactly like aircraft flares

798
00:26:39,669 --> 00:26:38,480
um so i i can't

799
00:26:41,269 --> 00:26:39,679
i don't i'm not going to spend a bunch

800
00:26:43,669 --> 00:26:41,279
of time i could be using for other

801
00:26:45,430 --> 00:26:43,679
projects or using further things yeah so

802
00:26:47,830 --> 00:26:45,440
i i appreciate that like i could just

803
00:26:49,669 --> 00:26:47,840
watch his video you know i liked it you

804
00:26:51,510 --> 00:26:49,679
know i wrote great content

805
00:26:53,350 --> 00:26:51,520
uh and it is you know that's good that i

806
00:26:55,350 --> 00:26:53,360
think that helps everybody right i mean

807
00:26:57,830 --> 00:26:55,360
absolutely yeah the debunkers make us

808
00:27:00,390 --> 00:26:57,840
work harder

809
00:27:01,990 --> 00:27:00,400
and it hurts when you get jab but

810
00:27:03,909 --> 00:27:02,000
whatever

811
00:27:05,350 --> 00:27:03,919
yeah and that's why and the fighter part

812
00:27:07,190 --> 00:27:05,360
you know that's what it feels like i'm

813
00:27:08,710 --> 00:27:07,200
sure you you would just fit in fine you

814
00:27:10,310 --> 00:27:08,720
know you're used to getting you're used

815
00:27:11,990 --> 00:27:10,320
to getting dad

816
00:27:13,750 --> 00:27:12,000
that's good yeah i'm used to the digs

817
00:27:15,269 --> 00:27:13,760
don't worry man um

818
00:27:16,950 --> 00:27:15,279
but listen thanks for all that but what

819
00:27:18,549 --> 00:27:16,960
i want to just bring it back to you in

820
00:27:20,389 --> 00:27:18,559
particular now and

821
00:27:21,350 --> 00:27:20,399
through those years of flying and

822
00:27:23,750 --> 00:27:21,360
everything

823
00:27:25,269 --> 00:27:23,760
what was the conversation like with with

824
00:27:27,830 --> 00:27:25,279
fellow pilots and that was there ever

825
00:27:29,990 --> 00:27:27,840
any talk of ufos in uap even

826
00:27:31,510 --> 00:27:30,000
not that you saw anything but just

827
00:27:33,590 --> 00:27:31,520
does it ever come up

828
00:27:37,029 --> 00:27:33,600
is it taboo was the stigma there that it

829
00:27:41,350 --> 00:27:39,029
i mean we literally never talked about

830
00:27:42,549 --> 00:27:41,360
it right i don't remember one single

831
00:27:44,389 --> 00:27:42,559
conversation

832
00:27:45,909 --> 00:27:44,399
yeah i'm not surprised i've heard that

833
00:27:47,029 --> 00:27:45,919
from a lot of military people i've spoke

834
00:27:49,269 --> 00:27:47,039
to

835
00:27:50,710 --> 00:27:49,279
i was surprised looking back how much

836
00:27:52,870 --> 00:27:50,720
the air force

837
00:27:55,430 --> 00:27:52,880
has investigated how much they were

838
00:27:56,470 --> 00:27:55,440
involved the u.s air force

839
00:27:58,310 --> 00:27:56,480
um

840
00:28:00,310 --> 00:27:58,320
yeah i mean just never looked at it you

841
00:28:01,830 --> 00:28:00,320
know if you just think it's crazy and

842
00:28:02,870 --> 00:28:01,840
couldn't possibly be true then you just

843
00:28:03,750 --> 00:28:02,880
avoid it

844
00:28:05,669 --> 00:28:03,760
yeah

845
00:28:07,269 --> 00:28:05,679
or i did anyway especially i mean

846
00:28:09,029 --> 00:28:07,279
especially when you're flying and if you

847
00:28:10,870 --> 00:28:09,039
know now i have more time

848
00:28:12,389 --> 00:28:10,880
that i'm using up quickly but

849
00:28:13,990 --> 00:28:12,399
uh in a fighter squadron you just don't

850
00:28:17,190 --> 00:28:14,000
have any time man there's i mean i guess

851
00:28:19,269 --> 00:28:17,200
you are bs in a lot

852
00:28:21,909 --> 00:28:19,279
it never came up man never came up

853
00:28:23,990 --> 00:28:21,919
that's cool man i can believe it totally

854
00:28:25,750 --> 00:28:24,000
um so where did your interest come from

855
00:28:27,430 --> 00:28:25,760
then you know

856
00:28:31,830 --> 00:28:27,440
in the in the whole ufo subject because

857
00:28:34,470 --> 00:28:31,840
you're deep in it now man um

858
00:28:36,630 --> 00:28:34,480
it came from luella uh louis lozando

859
00:28:38,389 --> 00:28:36,640
yeah i mean uh

860
00:28:40,389 --> 00:28:38,399
that video with

861
00:28:41,590 --> 00:28:40,399
fravor and lex friedman so that got me

862
00:28:42,789 --> 00:28:41,600
into it but why did i start making

863
00:28:45,990 --> 00:28:42,799
videos about it

864
00:28:49,669 --> 00:28:46,000
i mean mick west got me in there

865
00:28:53,029 --> 00:28:51,669
gotta i gotta get that into this

866
00:28:54,470 --> 00:28:53,039
uh somehow it's gotta be a joke

867
00:28:55,909 --> 00:28:54,480
somewhere um

868
00:28:58,870 --> 00:28:55,919
yeah so

869
00:29:02,070 --> 00:28:58,880
yeah mick was on tv saying this stuff is

870
00:29:04,470 --> 00:29:02,080
is not real it's obviously you know fake

871
00:29:06,070 --> 00:29:04,480
and that got that got me involved um but

872
00:29:08,630 --> 00:29:06,080
i have always

873
00:29:11,190 --> 00:29:08,640
no i i've never been religious um and

874
00:29:13,110 --> 00:29:11,200
i've always been interested in

875
00:29:14,950 --> 00:29:13,120
knowing you know what the hell is going

876
00:29:18,470 --> 00:29:14,960
on with life

877
00:29:19,990 --> 00:29:18,480
why we're here what is it like i still

878
00:29:22,389 --> 00:29:20,000
every day i'm just like man what am i

879
00:29:23,669 --> 00:29:22,399
looking at um

880
00:29:25,190 --> 00:29:23,679
and that's why i went into science

881
00:29:26,710 --> 00:29:25,200
that's why i got a chemistry degree i

882
00:29:28,789 --> 00:29:26,720
think i've just always been very

883
00:29:29,830 --> 00:29:28,799
interested in the nature of reality you

884
00:29:31,350 --> 00:29:29,840
know i've read

885
00:29:33,190 --> 00:29:31,360
i've tried to read all

886
00:29:35,430 --> 00:29:33,200
you know as many novels as i can by

887
00:29:37,510 --> 00:29:35,440
stephen hawking and

888
00:29:40,710 --> 00:29:37,520
i read the old school aristotle so i've

889
00:29:42,630 --> 00:29:40,720
always been very interested in um being

890
00:29:44,470 --> 00:29:42,640
human and what that means how it's

891
00:29:46,470 --> 00:29:44,480
defined

892
00:29:47,269 --> 00:29:46,480
and i also

893
00:29:50,310 --> 00:29:47,279
love

894
00:29:54,470 --> 00:29:52,549
that

895
00:29:56,310 --> 00:29:54,480
people are being surprised stereotypes

896
00:29:57,830 --> 00:29:56,320
are being broken basically i grew up and

897
00:29:59,669 --> 00:29:57,840
i look around i'm like man i feel like

898
00:30:01,110 --> 00:29:59,679
i'm i don't know kind of surrounded by

899
00:30:02,870 --> 00:30:01,120
idiots and

900
00:30:05,350 --> 00:30:02,880
that

901
00:30:07,590 --> 00:30:05,360
crazy stuff right

902
00:30:09,750 --> 00:30:07,600
and then this comes out the ufo comes

903
00:30:11,510 --> 00:30:09,760
out the ufo stuff and i was like this

904
00:30:12,950 --> 00:30:11,520
could actually be true i mean is that

905
00:30:14,870 --> 00:30:12,960
even a possibility because that that

906
00:30:17,430 --> 00:30:14,880
just changes the whole game

907
00:30:20,230 --> 00:30:17,440
um and we could possibly find out like

908
00:30:22,870 --> 00:30:20,240
we could possibly find out that just

909
00:30:25,510 --> 00:30:22,880
so mind-blowing to me um

910
00:30:27,669 --> 00:30:25,520
so from there it was like

911
00:30:29,430 --> 00:30:27,679
why would i spend you know my time on

912
00:30:30,710 --> 00:30:29,440
anything else what what else are you

913
00:30:32,149 --> 00:30:30,720
gonna

914
00:30:34,070 --> 00:30:32,159
try and find out about the world you

915
00:30:36,070 --> 00:30:34,080
know i've already done

916
00:30:38,070 --> 00:30:36,080
i'm very happy with how i ended you know

917
00:30:40,710 --> 00:30:38,080
i luckily survived through you know

918
00:30:41,669 --> 00:30:40,720
dangerous very dangerous career and

919
00:30:43,350 --> 00:30:41,679
um

920
00:30:44,630 --> 00:30:43,360
been in a position where i feel actually

921
00:30:46,470 --> 00:30:44,640
very

922
00:30:48,789 --> 00:30:46,480
i hate to say blessed right but in a

923
00:30:50,389 --> 00:30:48,799
sense i feel very appreciative of my

924
00:30:51,909 --> 00:30:50,399
position um

925
00:30:52,870 --> 00:30:51,919
yeah and i've had tons of you know i've

926
00:30:53,830 --> 00:30:52,880
traveled all the way around the world

927
00:30:57,590 --> 00:30:53,840
i've

928
00:30:59,590 --> 00:30:57,600
everything i wanted to do

929
00:31:01,029 --> 00:30:59,600
um so

930
00:31:02,549 --> 00:31:01,039
why would i do anything else you know

931
00:31:04,710 --> 00:31:02,559
what i don't know

932
00:31:06,230 --> 00:31:04,720
i like that attitude i really do i think

933
00:31:07,190 --> 00:31:06,240
a lot of people feel the same man i

934
00:31:09,190 --> 00:31:07,200
think you're

935
00:31:11,029 --> 00:31:09,200
a really important voice

936
00:31:12,789 --> 00:31:11,039
or how did you get in

937
00:31:14,950 --> 00:31:12,799
i guess my story is

938
00:31:18,470 --> 00:31:14,960
the same as a lot of people you know

939
00:31:20,470 --> 00:31:18,480
sci-fi i was a child of the 80s some of

940
00:31:23,430 --> 00:31:20,480
the best sci-fi movies ever came from

941
00:31:26,070 --> 00:31:23,440
that era yes and then i suppose i

942
00:31:27,830 --> 00:31:26,080
discovered ufo documentaries but

943
00:31:29,590 --> 00:31:27,840
you know you never get any answers from

944
00:31:32,070 --> 00:31:29,600
those so that kind of made me then want

945
00:31:33,110 --> 00:31:32,080
to go and dig into even more and realize

946
00:31:35,509 --> 00:31:33,120
there were

947
00:31:37,430 --> 00:31:35,519
declassified documents that i guess

948
00:31:39,110 --> 00:31:37,440
still didn't give us answers but it just

949
00:31:42,230 --> 00:31:39,120
kept me

950
00:31:44,070 --> 00:31:42,240
needing more always always needing more

951
00:31:46,710 --> 00:31:44,080
and yet here i am to this day just still

952
00:31:48,310 --> 00:31:46,720
looking for more answers

953
00:31:49,750 --> 00:31:48,320
i guess it's an obsession i guess it's

954
00:31:51,990 --> 00:31:49,760
i'm that i've got that kind of addictive

955
00:31:55,029 --> 00:31:52,000
personality where if i do something i'm

956
00:31:56,230 --> 00:31:55,039
going to go like full force 110

957
00:32:01,350 --> 00:31:56,240
until

958
00:32:02,789 --> 00:32:01,360
if you know what i mean

959
00:32:04,149 --> 00:32:02,799
so uh yeah

960
00:32:06,149 --> 00:32:04,159
it's just uh

961
00:32:08,470 --> 00:32:06,159
i ain't stopping

962
00:32:10,310 --> 00:32:08,480
uh but listen um

963
00:32:12,310 --> 00:32:10,320
let's talk about last year because i

964
00:32:14,230 --> 00:32:12,320
feel last year really i mean we could

965
00:32:16,870 --> 00:32:14,240
talk about 2017 and that kind of

966
00:32:19,430 --> 00:32:16,880
switched it up up a gear but last year

967
00:32:20,789 --> 00:32:19,440
2021 i felt like was the best year we've

968
00:32:22,310 --> 00:32:20,799
had in a while

969
00:32:27,350 --> 00:32:22,320
um

970
00:32:29,509 --> 00:32:27,360
signed in where we knew we were going to

971
00:32:31,430 --> 00:32:29,519
get 180 days for

972
00:32:33,190 --> 00:32:31,440
a report let's say

973
00:32:34,070 --> 00:32:33,200
what were your expectations leading up

974
00:32:35,190 --> 00:32:34,080
to that

975
00:32:37,029 --> 00:32:35,200
and then

976
00:32:39,029 --> 00:32:37,039
leading into what were your thoughts

977
00:32:41,750 --> 00:32:39,039
when we got the preliminary

978
00:32:45,830 --> 00:32:44,230
yeah i mean i i guess i'm very happy

979
00:32:48,470 --> 00:32:45,840
with what came out

980
00:32:50,470 --> 00:32:48,480
good you know yeah i'm very happy i was

981
00:32:52,549 --> 00:32:50,480
just reviewing again

982
00:32:54,549 --> 00:32:52,559
yeah i mean it's excellent what they

983
00:32:58,950 --> 00:32:54,559
at least uh i still need to track down

984
00:33:01,110 --> 00:32:58,960
the final final ndaa that was signed um

985
00:33:03,110 --> 00:33:01,120
but the most recent copy i saw was was

986
00:33:05,269 --> 00:33:03,120
very good uh it had everything we asked

987
00:33:07,750 --> 00:33:05,279
for you know there's unclassified

988
00:33:10,149 --> 00:33:07,760
i'm talking about ndaa for 2021 not

989
00:33:11,590 --> 00:33:10,159
talking 2021. i wasn't even on i didn't

990
00:33:12,789 --> 00:33:11,600
even know what that was you know i knew

991
00:33:13,990 --> 00:33:12,799
what it was

992
00:33:15,350 --> 00:33:14,000
um

993
00:33:17,430 --> 00:33:15,360
but you were here when we got the june

994
00:33:19,269 --> 00:33:17,440
25th preliminary assessment okay sorry

995
00:33:21,110 --> 00:33:19,279
about it yeah no that's all good i'm in

996
00:33:22,950 --> 00:33:21,120
the build up to that and then where we

997
00:33:25,269 --> 00:33:22,960
got that nine page

998
00:33:27,190 --> 00:33:25,279
premier league preliminary assessment

999
00:33:28,710 --> 00:33:27,200
yeah i didn't have any big expectations

1000
00:33:30,630 --> 00:33:28,720
for that report so i guess that's why i

1001
00:33:32,470 --> 00:33:30,640
wasn't let down as much it seemed like

1002
00:33:33,830 --> 00:33:32,480
the community kind of overall was let

1003
00:33:35,669 --> 00:33:33,840
down

1004
00:33:36,830 --> 00:33:35,679
um you know they were expecting me more

1005
00:33:39,350 --> 00:33:36,840
more evidence

1006
00:33:40,950 --> 00:33:39,360
or but i was happy to just see those

1007
00:33:41,990 --> 00:33:40,960
numbers i was happy to see the numbers

1008
00:33:43,509 --> 00:33:42,000
they put in

1009
00:33:46,549 --> 00:33:43,519
yeah

1010
00:33:47,750 --> 00:33:46,559
it said some many

1011
00:33:49,110 --> 00:33:47,760
it could have been

1012
00:33:50,630 --> 00:33:49,120
could have been a whole load or nothing

1013
00:33:51,509 --> 00:33:50,640
you know i think even leading up to that

1014
00:33:53,990 --> 00:33:51,519
day

1015
00:33:54,789 --> 00:33:54,000
you know i was sat with all the websites

1016
00:33:56,710 --> 00:33:54,799
for

1017
00:33:57,990 --> 00:33:56,720
where it came out waiting and i was like

1018
00:33:59,350 --> 00:33:58,000
we still don't even know if it's going

1019
00:34:00,230 --> 00:33:59,360
to drop

1020
00:34:01,909 --> 00:34:00,240
so

1021
00:34:03,430 --> 00:34:01,919
yeah i think

1022
00:34:05,509 --> 00:34:03,440
a lot of people got the hopes up for

1023
00:34:07,110 --> 00:34:05,519
some sort of disclosure of some big

1024
00:34:08,950 --> 00:34:07,120
information but

1025
00:34:10,710 --> 00:34:08,960
you know i think the acknowledgement of

1026
00:34:13,109 --> 00:34:10,720
the subject being taken seriously within

1027
00:34:16,069 --> 00:34:13,119
dod and the pentagon is just as

1028
00:34:19,829 --> 00:34:16,079
important as as anything else so

1029
00:34:21,349 --> 00:34:19,839
but i mean i think it'll take a

1030
00:34:22,790 --> 00:34:21,359
i mean it's going to take everyone to

1031
00:34:25,510 --> 00:34:22,800
kind of bust through obviously it hasn't

1032
00:34:26,629 --> 00:34:25,520
happened in the past 70 years

1033
00:34:28,550 --> 00:34:26,639
of course

1034
00:34:30,069 --> 00:34:28,560
but i think

1035
00:34:32,629 --> 00:34:30,079
that was a

1036
00:34:34,710 --> 00:34:32,639
it at least validated it

1037
00:34:36,230 --> 00:34:34,720
so now scientists or at least people in

1038
00:34:38,230 --> 00:34:36,240
the military you know at least pilots

1039
00:34:40,389 --> 00:34:38,240
now or whoever's in the government

1040
00:34:41,990 --> 00:34:40,399
they can have those conversations

1041
00:34:43,190 --> 00:34:42,000
you know absolutely it's never had i

1042
00:34:45,030 --> 00:34:43,200
mean it's kind of

1043
00:34:47,669 --> 00:34:45,040
i don't remember a single conversation

1044
00:34:50,310 --> 00:34:47,679
about uh you know ufos or seeing any

1045
00:34:52,149 --> 00:34:50,320
anomalous objects or anything like

1046
00:34:53,589 --> 00:34:52,159
that's kind of weird right especially

1047
00:34:55,349 --> 00:34:53,599
and it was only

1048
00:34:58,069 --> 00:34:55,359
it was only made weirder when i went

1049
00:34:59,829 --> 00:34:58,079
back and saw that the air force had like

1050
00:35:01,750 --> 00:34:59,839
you know decades of

1051
00:35:02,710 --> 00:35:01,760
of experience with these things and you

1052
00:35:04,069 --> 00:35:02,720
know

1053
00:35:06,150 --> 00:35:04,079
so they were the worst they were the

1054
00:35:08,230 --> 00:35:06,160
worst at keeping the secrets man yeah

1055
00:35:09,910 --> 00:35:08,240
that's almost weird yeah it almost just

1056
00:35:10,950 --> 00:35:09,920
makes them look guiltier you know that

1057
00:35:13,030 --> 00:35:10,960
now

1058
00:35:16,230 --> 00:35:13,040
yeah so i was i was very happy to see

1059
00:35:18,550 --> 00:35:16,240
that so yeah you put it in writing uh

1060
00:35:20,950 --> 00:35:18,560
they put numbers in and so they they

1061
00:35:23,670 --> 00:35:20,960
validated it and they have delivered on

1062
00:35:26,550 --> 00:35:23,680
on pretty much everything i can see

1063
00:35:27,910 --> 00:35:26,560
um it's just taking a while but

1064
00:35:30,390 --> 00:35:27,920
like little i was gonna say right it

1065
00:35:33,030 --> 00:35:30,400
takes a while yeah exactly so let's jump

1066
00:35:36,230 --> 00:35:33,040
forward now to the same thing ndaa but

1067
00:35:39,349 --> 00:35:36,240
this for the 2022. so like we were just

1068
00:35:40,470 --> 00:35:39,359
saying and even before we jumped on that

1069
00:35:42,550 --> 00:35:40,480
yeah

1070
00:35:44,390 --> 00:35:42,560
it's different it's only one year on but

1071
00:35:46,470 --> 00:35:44,400
it seems like we've made some pretty big

1072
00:35:48,550 --> 00:35:46,480
steps so what are your thoughts on like

1073
00:35:49,670 --> 00:35:48,560
the the first announcement of of the

1074
00:35:52,150 --> 00:35:49,680
amendments

1075
00:35:54,950 --> 00:35:52,160
um the ndaa i think it was

1076
00:35:56,390 --> 00:35:54,960
september october october

1077
00:35:57,670 --> 00:35:56,400
and then leading up to now with the

1078
00:35:58,710 --> 00:35:57,680
amount of changes

1079
00:36:02,150 --> 00:35:58,720
does that

1080
00:36:03,910 --> 00:36:02,160
feel different to last year for you

1081
00:36:06,710 --> 00:36:03,920
i mean for me it's like a dif i live in

1082
00:36:08,310 --> 00:36:06,720
a different world to be honest um

1083
00:36:10,310 --> 00:36:08,320
yeah completely

1084
00:36:12,870 --> 00:36:10,320
good you know i mean different universe

1085
00:36:15,109 --> 00:36:12,880
i guess i mean it really changed my

1086
00:36:18,310 --> 00:36:15,119
it changed my paradigm

1087
00:36:20,390 --> 00:36:18,320
because before that i kind of thought um

1088
00:36:22,550 --> 00:36:20,400
you know standard you kind of think you

1089
00:36:23,750 --> 00:36:22,560
know what's going on you know

1090
00:36:25,589 --> 00:36:23,760
like

1091
00:36:28,470 --> 00:36:25,599
same thing i thought science was correct

1092
00:36:30,950 --> 00:36:28,480
like but it it just cannot possibly be

1093
00:36:32,390 --> 00:36:30,960
true that science knows knows everything

1094
00:36:35,910 --> 00:36:32,400
right they we that's the point of

1095
00:36:38,150 --> 00:36:35,920
science is we're always progressing

1096
00:36:39,589 --> 00:36:38,160
so to think that i you know i was

1097
00:36:41,349 --> 00:36:39,599
certain that nothing would go faster

1098
00:36:42,790 --> 00:36:41,359
than the speed of light you know as of

1099
00:36:44,710 --> 00:36:42,800
last year i was like well you know or

1100
00:36:47,270 --> 00:36:44,720
it'll be a long time uh there's no

1101
00:36:49,990 --> 00:36:47,280
possibility that alien life could be

1102
00:36:51,190 --> 00:36:50,000
here on earth you know i thought i was

1103
00:36:52,390 --> 00:36:51,200
pretty certain of that you know i would

1104
00:36:54,390 --> 00:36:52,400
have bet

1105
00:36:57,349 --> 00:36:54,400
you know i'm not probably not my life

1106
00:36:58,550 --> 00:36:57,359
but maybe i mean i was pretty certain

1107
00:37:00,950 --> 00:36:58,560
now i'm like

1108
00:37:02,790 --> 00:37:00,960
i don't know i mean it's definitely not

1109
00:37:04,950 --> 00:37:02,800
it is definitely possible in my brain

1110
00:37:06,790 --> 00:37:04,960
now that it that that it's

1111
00:37:09,270 --> 00:37:06,800
you know it could be there could be

1112
00:37:10,790 --> 00:37:09,280
aliens here which makes sense right i

1113
00:37:11,670 --> 00:37:10,800
mean if you think about it

1114
00:37:14,150 --> 00:37:11,680
because

1115
00:37:15,990 --> 00:37:14,160
we can say we don't even know how many

1116
00:37:18,550 --> 00:37:16,000
you know galaxies are in the universe

1117
00:37:20,230 --> 00:37:18,560
like we literally can't we don't know

1118
00:37:22,550 --> 00:37:20,240
you know our numbers go from like

1119
00:37:24,150 --> 00:37:22,560
hundreds of billions into the trillions

1120
00:37:25,930 --> 00:37:24,160
dude there's more grains of sand than on

1121
00:37:29,190 --> 00:37:25,940
them beautiful beaches in portugal

1122
00:37:31,990 --> 00:37:29,200
[Laughter]

1123
00:37:35,990 --> 00:37:32,000
and everywhere else and everywhere else

1124
00:37:38,390 --> 00:37:36,000
yeah that's the crazy thing the numbers

1125
00:37:40,150 --> 00:37:38,400
and yet none of them could possibly have

1126
00:37:41,589 --> 00:37:40,160
figured out a way to

1127
00:37:43,430 --> 00:37:41,599
you know

1128
00:37:45,349 --> 00:37:43,440
travel to where we are or know that

1129
00:37:46,790 --> 00:37:45,359
we're alive i mean it just seems

1130
00:37:48,069 --> 00:37:46,800
now that i've changed you know now

1131
00:37:50,230 --> 00:37:48,079
looking back i kind of feel like i've

1132
00:37:53,030 --> 00:37:50,240
gone through a door you know and now i'm

1133
00:37:54,470 --> 00:37:53,040
looking back and i'm like man it's

1134
00:37:56,069 --> 00:37:54,480
naive you know

1135
00:37:57,829 --> 00:37:56,079
that's cool but that's the evolution of

1136
00:37:59,589 --> 00:37:57,839
you as a person and

1137
00:38:01,990 --> 00:37:59,599
the longer that you're in this subject

1138
00:38:08,550 --> 00:38:02,000
the crazier things again yeah

1139
00:38:12,710 --> 00:38:10,470
you know it's difficult

1140
00:38:14,390 --> 00:38:12,720
yeah but i think as well like that's all

1141
00:38:16,550 --> 00:38:14,400
good but they seem to like

1142
00:38:18,230 --> 00:38:16,560
and i'm not throwing shade on anyone but

1143
00:38:20,630 --> 00:38:18,240
it almost felt like for a long time that

1144
00:38:22,550 --> 00:38:20,640
they were talking about the same thing

1145
00:38:24,550 --> 00:38:22,560
year after year after year

1146
00:38:26,470 --> 00:38:24,560
i know they weren't getting the kind of

1147
00:38:27,990 --> 00:38:26,480
the change behind the scenes that we're

1148
00:38:29,349 --> 00:38:28,000
getting right now

1149
00:38:31,270 --> 00:38:29,359
but

1150
00:38:33,510 --> 00:38:31,280
things do change and here we are

1151
00:38:35,510 --> 00:38:33,520
changing rapidly

1152
00:38:37,430 --> 00:38:35,520
yeah and all this like robert solis 25

1153
00:38:38,870 --> 00:38:37,440
years man we just

1154
00:38:40,630 --> 00:38:38,880
yeah i feel so

1155
00:38:42,790 --> 00:38:40,640
you know grateful to those guys

1156
00:38:45,109 --> 00:38:42,800
100 man and i'm so glad that he got to

1157
00:38:47,589 --> 00:38:45,119
do that conference back in october you

1158
00:38:49,510 --> 00:38:47,599
know yes it felt like it needed more

1159
00:38:51,670 --> 00:38:49,520
coverage media coverage especially yeah

1160
00:38:53,829 --> 00:38:51,680
i didn't see it anywhere man that's yeah

1161
00:38:55,589 --> 00:38:53,839
it was a shame i know a few outlets

1162
00:38:56,790 --> 00:38:55,599
picked it up as a story but they should

1163
00:38:59,109 --> 00:38:56,800
have been there

1164
00:39:00,470 --> 00:38:59,119
like they were there with in 2001 for

1165
00:39:01,829 --> 00:39:00,480
the disclosure project with stephen

1166
00:39:04,150 --> 00:39:01,839
greer they should have been in the

1167
00:39:05,190 --> 00:39:04,160
building

1168
00:39:07,270 --> 00:39:05,200
so yeah i felt a little bit of

1169
00:39:11,109 --> 00:39:07,280
disappointment there but

1170
00:39:15,510 --> 00:39:13,270
listen one thing i really wanted to talk

1171
00:39:17,829 --> 00:39:15,520
to you about is something that actually

1172
00:39:20,550 --> 00:39:17,839
opened my eyes massively recently and

1173
00:39:22,150 --> 00:39:20,560
that was your review and analysis

1174
00:39:25,910 --> 00:39:22,160
of the turkey

1175
00:39:28,069 --> 00:39:25,920
ufo for the turkey for sweet oh man i we

1176
00:39:29,829 --> 00:39:28,079
got to get into this because number one

1177
00:39:31,589 --> 00:39:29,839
like all i ever heard and what i looked

1178
00:39:34,710 --> 00:39:31,599
at was this turkey footage this this

1179
00:39:35,430 --> 00:39:34,720
video but it's not just one video

1180
00:39:37,270 --> 00:39:35,440
no

1181
00:39:39,430 --> 00:39:37,280
you taught me you showed me through your

1182
00:39:42,069 --> 00:39:39,440
video that there's hours and hours of

1183
00:39:43,990 --> 00:39:42,079
video so yeah i mean i i'm going to

1184
00:39:45,510 --> 00:39:44,000
leave it up to you where we start with

1185
00:39:47,430 --> 00:39:45,520
this discussion

1186
00:39:50,630 --> 00:39:47,440
um

1187
00:39:54,550 --> 00:39:50,640
off to the side because my daughter's

1188
00:39:55,990 --> 00:39:54,560
calling me but i'm going to mute myself

1189
00:39:57,910 --> 00:39:56,000
he started talking right now i'm going

1190
00:40:01,910 --> 00:39:57,920
to run outside

1191
00:40:03,510 --> 00:40:01,920
i'll do 10 backflips chug five beers

1192
00:40:04,950 --> 00:40:03,520
uh okay i'll start with the first

1193
00:40:07,190 --> 00:40:04,960
question is

1194
00:40:08,950 --> 00:40:07,200
uh when will this question for chris

1195
00:40:10,630 --> 00:40:08,960
from moon when will he go to turkey to

1196
00:40:12,309 --> 00:40:10,640
figure out the details on the ufo

1197
00:40:15,430 --> 00:40:12,319
sightings that were filmed there

1198
00:40:17,829 --> 00:40:15,440
um that's a good question i

1199
00:40:20,230 --> 00:40:17,839
so if i can get a hold of anyone there

1200
00:40:22,230 --> 00:40:20,240
so i wrote the

1201
00:40:23,510 --> 00:40:22,240
turkey ufo incident an email basically

1202
00:40:24,870 --> 00:40:23,520
just i need to get a hold of someone

1203
00:40:27,109 --> 00:40:24,880
there that i can

1204
00:40:29,190 --> 00:40:27,119
actually go and talk to

1205
00:40:30,790 --> 00:40:29,200
the other option is i just go there i

1206
00:40:32,950 --> 00:40:30,800
start wandering around the place and

1207
00:40:35,589 --> 00:40:32,960
turks are super friendly and i speak you

1208
00:40:37,750 --> 00:40:35,599
know turkish i'll have to brush up on it

1209
00:40:40,150 --> 00:40:37,760
hopefully i can i can track them down

1210
00:40:41,910 --> 00:40:40,160
yoman

1211
00:40:44,069 --> 00:40:41,920
so that that's all i'm waiting for is

1212
00:40:45,990 --> 00:40:44,079
some sort of

1213
00:40:47,829 --> 00:40:46,000
uh reply back from those guys so if

1214
00:40:49,910 --> 00:40:47,839
anybody knows

1215
00:40:51,670 --> 00:40:49,920
anyone in turkey that can help with that

1216
00:40:53,030 --> 00:40:51,680
all right

1217
00:40:54,630 --> 00:40:53,040
question to chris i have your fitness

1218
00:40:58,390 --> 00:40:54,640
book but i'm still a fat bastard my

1219
00:41:02,150 --> 00:40:58,400
question wtaf i don't what the

1220
00:41:06,390 --> 00:41:04,550
yes that's the that's your problem there

1221
00:41:07,910 --> 00:41:06,400
gerald no no

1222
00:41:09,750 --> 00:41:07,920
thanks thanks for getting the book man

1223
00:41:11,430 --> 00:41:09,760
that's awesome um

1224
00:41:12,870 --> 00:41:11,440
yeah anyway

1225
00:41:14,870 --> 00:41:12,880
that was me tap dancing until you came

1226
00:41:16,870 --> 00:41:14,880
back that's awesome man thank you

1227
00:41:18,470 --> 00:41:16,880
apologies for that my daughters

1228
00:41:19,829 --> 00:41:18,480
she's not me feeling you want to go to

1229
00:41:21,750 --> 00:41:19,839
turkey i heard you you're going to

1230
00:41:23,270 --> 00:41:21,760
colombia you want to do a challenge with

1231
00:41:25,270 --> 00:41:23,280
me istanbul

1232
00:41:26,710 --> 00:41:25,280
dude i'll fly out to portugal first

1233
00:41:28,550 --> 00:41:26,720
we'll do a little surfing have a little

1234
00:41:30,790 --> 00:41:28,560
week out there 100

1235
00:41:32,950 --> 00:41:30,800
and then when you then you you know then

1236
00:41:35,109 --> 00:41:32,960
we can let's go to turkey man you speak

1237
00:41:36,790 --> 00:41:35,119
the language yes

1238
00:41:37,589 --> 00:41:36,800
you served out there am i right been a

1239
00:41:38,550 --> 00:41:37,599
while

1240
00:41:42,150 --> 00:41:38,560
yeah

1241
00:41:44,230 --> 00:41:42,160
there's good waves actually everyone

1242
00:41:45,829 --> 00:41:44,240
says there's no waves and ever a few

1243
00:41:48,150 --> 00:41:45,839
times i went there

1244
00:41:49,670 --> 00:41:48,160
dude i'm down i'm dead yeah so istanbul

1245
00:41:51,829 --> 00:41:49,680
so yeah they were asking i just need to

1246
00:41:54,069 --> 00:41:51,839
get a contact uh and then the holidays

1247
00:41:56,230 --> 00:41:54,079
hit and yeah so

1248
00:41:57,910 --> 00:41:56,240
basically that's

1249
00:42:00,230 --> 00:41:57,920
i think it'd be awesome actually

1250
00:42:01,670 --> 00:42:00,240
i totally agree man yeah there's a ton

1251
00:42:04,150 --> 00:42:01,680
of there was so much footage on that it

1252
00:42:07,109 --> 00:42:04,160
was difficult to just make a video

1253
00:42:09,270 --> 00:42:07,119
um because they're just so

1254
00:42:13,349 --> 00:42:09,280
there's hours of footage essentially

1255
00:42:14,550 --> 00:42:13,359
um the 2008 so it's 2007 2008 2009

1256
00:42:17,109 --> 00:42:14,560
there's different videos from each of

1257
00:42:18,710 --> 00:42:17,119
those years i think 2008 seems to have

1258
00:42:21,190 --> 00:42:18,720
like if you're just going to

1259
00:42:23,270 --> 00:42:21,200
watch one video because the full

1260
00:42:25,109 --> 00:42:23,280
footage just from 2008 i think is you

1261
00:42:26,870 --> 00:42:25,119
know 40 minutes or something

1262
00:42:29,510 --> 00:42:26,880
so it takes a while to go through it but

1263
00:42:30,790 --> 00:42:29,520
there's some really telling

1264
00:42:32,710 --> 00:42:30,800
yeah sorry i was just going to say like

1265
00:42:34,950 --> 00:42:32,720
all i was i mean i was aware of the case

1266
00:42:38,230 --> 00:42:34,960
and i i've always seen that classic

1267
00:42:39,910 --> 00:42:38,240
image of the shape of of the ufo that

1268
00:42:42,550 --> 00:42:39,920
people then claim to be

1269
00:42:45,190 --> 00:42:42,560
part of a cruise ship which

1270
00:42:47,030 --> 00:42:45,200
i was never 100 convinced but then

1271
00:42:49,589 --> 00:42:47,040
obviously you know seeing your your

1272
00:42:51,910 --> 00:42:49,599
video when it came out it was like

1273
00:42:53,990 --> 00:42:51,920
over multiple years

1274
00:42:56,390 --> 00:42:54,000
at heights that could never have been

1275
00:42:59,510 --> 00:42:56,400
like a you know 75 foot

1276
00:43:01,349 --> 00:42:59,520
cabin of a cruise ship blew my mind man

1277
00:43:04,790 --> 00:43:01,359
and i think it's been quite

1278
00:43:06,309 --> 00:43:04,800
ignored in part here here and there so i

1279
00:43:08,470 --> 00:43:06,319
i mean i was just blown away and i

1280
00:43:10,230 --> 00:43:08,480
rewatched it today as well just to

1281
00:43:12,710 --> 00:43:10,240
you know brush up on it and

1282
00:43:14,710 --> 00:43:12,720
it's super compelling man so what where

1283
00:43:16,470 --> 00:43:14,720
are you at with that case you know is it

1284
00:43:17,910 --> 00:43:16,480
something you're gonna i mean obviously

1285
00:43:19,510 --> 00:43:17,920
you say you'd like to get contacts out

1286
00:43:21,589 --> 00:43:19,520
there but have you tried contacting the

1287
00:43:24,390 --> 00:43:21,599
guy that filmed it

1288
00:43:26,550 --> 00:43:24,400
i tried to get his contact no so

1289
00:43:30,470 --> 00:43:26,560
basically i kind of i sent out a few

1290
00:43:31,910 --> 00:43:30,480
emails uh and then on messenger facebook

1291
00:43:33,109 --> 00:43:31,920
and then that's it but i haven't tried

1292
00:43:35,990 --> 00:43:33,119
that hard

1293
00:43:37,589 --> 00:43:36,000
uh we had our own travel plans um but

1294
00:43:41,750 --> 00:43:37,599
like in february

1295
00:43:42,870 --> 00:43:41,760
or march uh i could go um

1296
00:43:43,750 --> 00:43:42,880
yeah

1297
00:43:45,270 --> 00:43:43,760
so

1298
00:43:47,030 --> 00:43:45,280
i'd like to go yeah i want to talk to

1299
00:43:49,510 --> 00:43:47,040
you i want to talk to him there's also

1300
00:43:50,790 --> 00:43:49,520
in that uh documentary there was a

1301
00:43:52,790 --> 00:43:50,800
there's a

1302
00:43:54,390 --> 00:43:52,800
i guess one of the famous turkey

1303
00:43:56,069 --> 00:43:54,400
ufologists

1304
00:43:57,750 --> 00:43:56,079
that he actually did the investigation

1305
00:43:59,430 --> 00:43:57,760
so i need to get into contact with him

1306
00:44:00,309 --> 00:43:59,440
basically i just need to get to work and

1307
00:44:02,710 --> 00:44:00,319
do it

1308
00:44:04,550 --> 00:44:02,720
okay that's cool i'm sure you will man

1309
00:44:05,750 --> 00:44:04,560
everybody thanks for bringing up hey no

1310
00:44:08,230 --> 00:44:05,760
no because i want to say everybody

1311
00:44:09,589 --> 00:44:08,240
that's watching this now or or listening

1312
00:44:12,069 --> 00:44:09,599
after the fact

1313
00:44:13,349 --> 00:44:12,079
go over and number one subscribe to

1314
00:44:15,750 --> 00:44:13,359
chris's youtube channel because it's

1315
00:44:17,270 --> 00:44:15,760
awesome but check out the turkey video

1316
00:44:19,190 --> 00:44:17,280
and then if you look in the description

1317
00:44:21,750 --> 00:44:19,200
below chris has given you all of the

1318
00:44:24,550 --> 00:44:21,760
links to all of the data and information

1319
00:44:26,470 --> 00:44:24,560
and research that was done on the case

1320
00:44:29,109 --> 00:44:26,480
you know in turkey and stuff it's it's

1321
00:44:29,829 --> 00:44:29,119
kind of everything you need and it

1322
00:44:32,309 --> 00:44:29,839
yeah

1323
00:44:34,309 --> 00:44:32,319
it's mind-blowing because it's not

1324
00:44:36,630 --> 00:44:34,319
not as simple as i thought it was i'm

1325
00:44:38,670 --> 00:44:36,640
guilty to you know enough to to think

1326
00:44:40,790 --> 00:44:38,680
that it's a simple case of

1327
00:44:43,270 --> 00:44:40,800
misidentification of lights from the

1328
00:44:45,670 --> 00:44:43,280
cabin of a cruise ship

1329
00:44:47,750 --> 00:44:45,680
yeah it's funny how these memes go out

1330
00:44:49,510 --> 00:44:47,760
yeah well you know it's that one photo

1331
00:44:52,069 --> 00:44:49,520
where it showed the cruise ship and then

1332
00:44:54,470 --> 00:44:52,079
it superimposed the ufo across the front

1333
00:44:55,990 --> 00:44:54,480
yeah somebody did that yeah

1334
00:44:57,589 --> 00:44:56,000
and everyone's like it's exactly the

1335
00:44:59,190 --> 00:44:57,599
same so i was looking at that it's yeah

1336
00:45:01,109 --> 00:44:59,200
it's just funny how it works i was

1337
00:45:03,270 --> 00:45:01,119
looking at that that photo and if you

1338
00:45:05,349 --> 00:45:03,280
actually look like at it i mean it

1339
00:45:07,270 --> 00:45:05,359
i don't know it doesn't look

1340
00:45:08,630 --> 00:45:07,280
exactly like it i think people could

1341
00:45:10,230 --> 00:45:08,640
make it fit

1342
00:45:11,829 --> 00:45:10,240
yeah

1343
00:45:13,430 --> 00:45:11,839
but then like again one thing that

1344
00:45:14,870 --> 00:45:13,440
really stood out for me in your analysis

1345
00:45:16,950 --> 00:45:14,880
video like

1346
00:45:19,430 --> 00:45:16,960
the guy zooms in on the moon and then

1347
00:45:21,510 --> 00:45:19,440
the object and then you do the math

1348
00:45:23,510 --> 00:45:21,520
and the math about the the heights and

1349
00:45:25,109 --> 00:45:23,520
the distances and the the curvature of

1350
00:45:27,589 --> 00:45:25,119
the earth i mean it's

1351
00:45:29,589 --> 00:45:27,599
you going deep man on that on the on the

1352
00:45:31,190 --> 00:45:29,599
science and the mathematics of it which

1353
00:45:33,030 --> 00:45:31,200
that one they'd already done it though

1354
00:45:34,470 --> 00:45:33,040
you know and that's interesting too like

1355
00:45:35,670 --> 00:45:34,480
you like you just mentioned there's tons

1356
00:45:37,589 --> 00:45:35,680
of stuff in there

1357
00:45:41,109 --> 00:45:37,599
um what i found was hours and hours of

1358
00:45:43,190 --> 00:45:41,119
footage you know but also a ton of um

1359
00:45:44,950 --> 00:45:43,200
like you just mentioned analysis on it

1360
00:45:46,870 --> 00:45:44,960
yeah so

1361
00:45:48,150 --> 00:45:46,880
uh it was nice because i i did my own

1362
00:45:49,829 --> 00:45:48,160
analysis

1363
00:45:51,589 --> 00:45:49,839
of that you know how high the moon is

1364
00:45:54,069 --> 00:45:51,599
above the horizon right because in the

1365
00:45:54,950 --> 00:45:54,079
same shot he basically zooms in on the

1366
00:45:57,829 --> 00:45:54,960
moon

1367
00:45:59,670 --> 00:45:57,839
uh and then he and he pans over and you

1368
00:46:00,630 --> 00:45:59,680
have the the uap

1369
00:46:02,069 --> 00:46:00,640
so

1370
00:46:03,990 --> 00:46:02,079
that felt like the strongest like

1371
00:46:06,390 --> 00:46:04,000
evidence uh

1372
00:46:08,470 --> 00:46:06,400
point so what i did i went through i go

1373
00:46:10,710 --> 00:46:08,480
to moon calc you know calm and then you

1374
00:46:12,630 --> 00:46:10,720
can see how high the the moon should be

1375
00:46:14,470 --> 00:46:12,640
at that date and time

1376
00:46:16,390 --> 00:46:14,480
uh well they already did that you know

1377
00:46:17,990 --> 00:46:16,400
so it was nice i i did so i got my own

1378
00:46:19,990 --> 00:46:18,000
estimate and then i was able to pair it

1379
00:46:21,270 --> 00:46:20,000
off of of what they had

1380
00:46:23,430 --> 00:46:21,280
uh and so

1381
00:46:24,870 --> 00:46:23,440
yeah it was it's very compelling that

1382
00:46:26,390 --> 00:46:24,880
argument um

1383
00:46:28,950 --> 00:46:26,400
you know it could it could still be a

1384
00:46:30,950 --> 00:46:28,960
hoax right that's what's so hard like

1385
00:46:32,870 --> 00:46:30,960
they could still hoax it but it'd have

1386
00:46:36,630 --> 00:46:32,880
to be over so many

1387
00:46:38,470 --> 00:46:36,640
years and it was already investigated

1388
00:46:39,829 --> 00:46:38,480
so yeah i mean and then whoever did it

1389
00:46:42,790 --> 00:46:39,839
came up with the

1390
00:46:45,910 --> 00:46:42,800
orangey red lights as well from my other

1391
00:46:47,670 --> 00:46:45,920
video where then you superimpose

1392
00:46:50,230 --> 00:46:47,680
so for everyone watching there's another

1393
00:46:52,150 --> 00:46:50,240
video from one of the same you know from

1394
00:46:55,030 --> 00:46:52,160
one of the three years where

1395
00:46:56,950 --> 00:46:55,040
you see four ready orangey lights and

1396
00:46:58,550 --> 00:46:56,960
then chris has superimposed those lights

1397
00:47:01,349 --> 00:46:58,560
over the other video of the craft and

1398
00:47:04,150 --> 00:47:01,359
they fit and it's just like

1399
00:47:06,790 --> 00:47:04,160
jesus man that's like if that's a hoax

1400
00:47:09,430 --> 00:47:06,800
that's elaborate it's in depth and it

1401
00:47:11,190 --> 00:47:09,440
spans years

1402
00:47:12,150 --> 00:47:11,200
for what game

1403
00:47:15,990 --> 00:47:12,160
i

1404
00:47:18,069 --> 00:47:16,000
monetary or

1405
00:47:19,510 --> 00:47:18,079
maybe i don't know i guess but well

1406
00:47:22,549 --> 00:47:19,520
what's also interesting is there was a

1407
00:47:24,470 --> 00:47:22,559
lot of other um actual witness sightings

1408
00:47:26,950 --> 00:47:24,480
all over istanbul

1409
00:47:29,670 --> 00:47:26,960
so it was also in the news uh that there

1410
00:47:31,270 --> 00:47:29,680
were it wasn't just these videos that

1411
00:47:33,510 --> 00:47:31,280
that prompted it it was actually

1412
00:47:35,109 --> 00:47:33,520
supposedly people saying they saw these

1413
00:47:37,030 --> 00:47:35,119
you know these balls of light moving

1414
00:47:38,390 --> 00:47:37,040
around or they saw these flying saucers

1415
00:47:40,710 --> 00:47:38,400
whatever

1416
00:47:42,150 --> 00:47:40,720
um yeah it's a huge so i i do want to go

1417
00:47:43,349 --> 00:47:42,160
i do want to go and so it's good i'm

1418
00:47:44,549 --> 00:47:43,359
glad i'm here and you guys are asking

1419
00:47:46,790 --> 00:47:44,559
about it because i'm trying to figure

1420
00:47:48,630 --> 00:47:46,800
out what to focus on uh going into the

1421
00:47:50,790 --> 00:47:48,640
new year so well in that case one thing

1422
00:47:52,309 --> 00:47:50,800
i really wanted to bring up is

1423
00:47:55,430 --> 00:47:52,319
one thing i did read is that the us

1424
00:47:56,710 --> 00:47:55,440
actually store nuclear weapons in turkey

1425
00:47:58,230 --> 00:47:56,720
and i wanted to know if you'd looked

1426
00:48:01,109 --> 00:47:58,240
into that aspect are there any was there

1427
00:48:03,349 --> 00:48:01,119
any storage facilities bases or anything

1428
00:48:05,510 --> 00:48:03,359
within that region where it could be

1429
00:48:08,870 --> 00:48:05,520
associated

1430
00:48:11,270 --> 00:48:08,880
i mean the only bases are down i i don't

1431
00:48:13,349 --> 00:48:11,280
they wouldn't have it in istanbul

1432
00:48:14,870 --> 00:48:13,359
right yeah so

1433
00:48:16,790 --> 00:48:14,880
yeah nothing there

1434
00:48:18,470 --> 00:48:16,800
i had to ask because

1435
00:48:19,670 --> 00:48:18,480
after re-watching the video today i was

1436
00:48:22,069 --> 00:48:19,680
like

1437
00:48:24,069 --> 00:48:22,079
you know it's natural associations you

1438
00:48:26,150 --> 00:48:24,079
know you just it makes you think

1439
00:48:27,670 --> 00:48:26,160
it's got to be something

1440
00:48:28,950 --> 00:48:27,680
interesting submarine i mean we have

1441
00:48:30,870 --> 00:48:28,960
nuclear subs

1442
00:48:34,230 --> 00:48:30,880
yeah yeah and you look at the bot the

1443
00:48:36,390 --> 00:48:34,240
boss versus is that's a very important

1444
00:48:37,910 --> 00:48:36,400
strategic straights

1445
00:48:39,670 --> 00:48:37,920
so it's yeah because of what you've got

1446
00:48:41,589 --> 00:48:39,680
above it with crimea and russia and

1447
00:48:42,790 --> 00:48:41,599
everything like that to the north and

1448
00:48:45,510 --> 00:48:42,800
yep

1449
00:48:47,030 --> 00:48:45,520
hmm yeah because the black sea

1450
00:48:49,510 --> 00:48:47,040
it uh

1451
00:48:50,710 --> 00:48:49,520
it doesn't ice over in the winter

1452
00:48:52,549 --> 00:48:50,720
so

1453
00:48:55,270 --> 00:48:52,559
that's russia's only

1454
00:48:57,349 --> 00:48:55,280
non-iced overport so only winter port is

1455
00:48:59,190 --> 00:48:57,359
in that black sea region that's i i

1456
00:49:00,870 --> 00:48:59,200
think that's the argument they when took

1457
00:49:02,710 --> 00:49:00,880
over crimea

1458
00:49:04,710 --> 00:49:02,720
so that's good movement for nuclear sub

1459
00:49:06,230 --> 00:49:04,720
or any subs in general well it's a very

1460
00:49:08,390 --> 00:49:06,240
strategic

1461
00:49:10,470 --> 00:49:08,400
location yeah bosphorus straits they're

1462
00:49:11,910 --> 00:49:10,480
famously strategic um but really for

1463
00:49:12,710 --> 00:49:11,920
russia as well

1464
00:49:14,870 --> 00:49:12,720
so

1465
00:49:16,630 --> 00:49:14,880
because again that's their only warm

1466
00:49:18,390 --> 00:49:16,640
water poor in the west coast

1467
00:49:19,589 --> 00:49:18,400
so they i think they treat that pretty

1468
00:49:21,430 --> 00:49:19,599
seriously

1469
00:49:23,750 --> 00:49:21,440
so you could have nuke subs under there

1470
00:49:24,549 --> 00:49:23,760
maybe under the water or something like

1471
00:49:28,870 --> 00:49:24,559
that

1472
00:49:30,630 --> 00:49:28,880
thing

1473
00:49:33,109 --> 00:49:30,640
for that one photo i saw that i almost

1474
00:49:35,430 --> 00:49:33,119
brushed aside the entire case

1475
00:49:37,190 --> 00:49:35,440
to then now discussing that video as

1476
00:49:37,990 --> 00:49:37,200
being something that really still could

1477
00:49:39,270 --> 00:49:38,000
be

1478
00:49:41,030 --> 00:49:39,280
incredible

1479
00:49:42,309 --> 00:49:41,040
hey i kept asking where's this cruise

1480
00:49:44,549 --> 00:49:42,319
ship you know where's the cruise ship

1481
00:49:46,150 --> 00:49:44,559
video and it i couldn't find it uh i'm

1482
00:49:47,910 --> 00:49:46,160
sorry cruise ship photo

1483
00:49:49,750 --> 00:49:47,920
because that's what everybody said well

1484
00:49:52,470 --> 00:49:49,760
that's just a cruise ship and i was like

1485
00:49:53,990 --> 00:49:52,480
uh okay where's the photo you know and

1486
00:49:56,549 --> 00:49:54,000
then i finally tracked it down on the

1487
00:49:58,549 --> 00:49:56,559
metabunk website and so

1488
00:50:00,230 --> 00:49:58,559
i found it on there uh and i was like

1489
00:50:01,910 --> 00:50:00,240
this is the photo this is it you know

1490
00:50:04,870 --> 00:50:01,920
they they discounted the whole case

1491
00:50:07,030 --> 00:50:04,880
because of this like crappy photoshopped

1492
00:50:08,870 --> 00:50:07,040
you know cruise ship

1493
00:50:10,069 --> 00:50:08,880
so yeah i don't think it i don't think

1494
00:50:12,150 --> 00:50:10,079
it should be thrown away definitely

1495
00:50:13,270 --> 00:50:12,160
because of that um yeah there's a lot of

1496
00:50:15,510 --> 00:50:13,280
reasons why

1497
00:50:17,750 --> 00:50:15,520
it's not or was shown not to be a cruise

1498
00:50:19,750 --> 00:50:17,760
ship or plus probably not a cruise ship

1499
00:50:21,190 --> 00:50:19,760
there was no cruise ships in the area uh

1500
00:50:22,549 --> 00:50:21,200
and probably the strongest evidence like

1501
00:50:24,790 --> 00:50:22,559
you mentioned was just the height above

1502
00:50:26,549 --> 00:50:24,800
the horizon based on that moon position

1503
00:50:28,870 --> 00:50:26,559
that blew me away

1504
00:50:31,349 --> 00:50:28,880
yeah i love it um on metabunk they said

1505
00:50:32,790 --> 00:50:31,359
that it actually isn't that high right

1506
00:50:34,150 --> 00:50:32,800
and uh

1507
00:50:40,390 --> 00:50:34,160
but

1508
00:50:42,230 --> 00:50:40,400
meters for what the cruise ship cabin

1509
00:50:43,670 --> 00:50:42,240
would be to your

1510
00:50:45,750 --> 00:50:43,680
mathematical estimation without

1511
00:50:49,190 --> 00:50:45,760
estimations it's like probably yeah it

1512
00:50:50,630 --> 00:50:49,200
would have to be wrong so the the

1513
00:50:52,549 --> 00:50:50,640
it would either have to be hoax that

1514
00:50:54,309 --> 00:50:52,559
they put it on a different day it would

1515
00:50:56,069 --> 00:50:54,319
have to be a hoax essentially that they

1516
00:50:58,950 --> 00:50:56,079
put it on they changed the time they

1517
00:51:01,910 --> 00:50:58,960
changed the camera on the camera

1518
00:51:04,710 --> 00:51:01,920
um or or they they put a

1519
00:51:06,630 --> 00:51:04,720
fake ufo somehow hanging

1520
00:51:08,150 --> 00:51:06,640
and that they're able to zoom in on but

1521
00:51:10,069 --> 00:51:08,160
that's the point right they zoom in on

1522
00:51:12,150 --> 00:51:10,079
it that that's super strong too because

1523
00:51:13,990 --> 00:51:12,160
you know because

1524
00:51:15,349 --> 00:51:14,000
yeah yeah and then he zooms in on the

1525
00:51:17,109 --> 00:51:15,359
ufo so

1526
00:51:18,390 --> 00:51:17,119
that also rules kind of about the the

1527
00:51:20,549 --> 00:51:18,400
hoax

1528
00:51:22,950 --> 00:51:20,559
yeah so i guess the only thing would be

1529
00:51:24,710 --> 00:51:22,960
if it's actually not

1530
00:51:26,870 --> 00:51:24,720
uh up here it's it's actually here and

1531
00:51:28,710 --> 00:51:26,880
we're just seeing it wrong you know

1532
00:51:30,549 --> 00:51:28,720
like that was that was mick west's

1533
00:51:32,950 --> 00:51:30,559
argument that there's a light there's a

1534
00:51:35,750 --> 00:51:32,960
light down here but it's it's a

1535
00:51:37,910 --> 00:51:35,760
it's like a a ship mass light that was

1536
00:51:39,430 --> 00:51:37,920
what he was what he was arguing so

1537
00:51:43,349 --> 00:51:39,440
i don't know it's very strong i want to

1538
00:51:44,790 --> 00:51:43,359
go so i'll definitely go yeah awesome

1539
00:51:46,790 --> 00:51:44,800
we look forward to follow-ups i've had a

1540
00:51:48,230 --> 00:51:46,800
lot of people asking me today uh over

1541
00:51:49,910 --> 00:51:48,240
the last couple of days when they knew i

1542
00:51:53,030 --> 00:51:49,920
was speaking to you about about that

1543
00:51:55,670 --> 00:51:53,040
footage so awesome i appreciate that

1544
00:51:56,630 --> 00:51:55,680
let's move on and talk about sky 360

1545
00:51:58,790 --> 00:51:56,640
which we

1546
00:52:00,069 --> 00:51:58,800
touched upon before we came on live um

1547
00:52:02,309 --> 00:52:00,079
for everyone out there that doesn't know

1548
00:52:04,390 --> 00:52:02,319
skyhub was a system that you could

1549
00:52:07,670 --> 00:52:04,400
install and build yourself at home and

1550
00:52:09,829 --> 00:52:07,680
it built a network globally to track

1551
00:52:12,150 --> 00:52:09,839
objects uap and things

1552
00:52:14,790 --> 00:52:12,160
and sky 360 is kind of the replacement

1553
00:52:16,790 --> 00:52:14,800
can you uh fill us in on

1554
00:52:19,430 --> 00:52:16,800
kind of what's going on with that yeah

1555
00:52:20,309 --> 00:52:19,440
yeah so skyhub was a

1556
00:52:22,630 --> 00:52:20,319
so

1557
00:52:24,309 --> 00:52:22,640
american led movement you know

1558
00:52:26,630 --> 00:52:24,319
grassroots

1559
00:52:28,549 --> 00:52:26,640
basically guys just in their free time

1560
00:52:31,190 --> 00:52:28,559
putting this project together

1561
00:52:32,950 --> 00:52:31,200
uh and it fell apart essentially um you

1562
00:52:35,349 --> 00:52:32,960
know it's it's a very difficult project

1563
00:52:37,190 --> 00:52:35,359
the problem uh we're finding is you know

1564
00:52:38,870 --> 00:52:37,200
it's difficult because you have to do

1565
00:52:42,150 --> 00:52:38,880
real-time

1566
00:52:44,630 --> 00:52:42,160
uh information um so uh last month i

1567
00:52:47,589 --> 00:52:44,640
went and looked at the it's the american

1568
00:52:50,790 --> 00:52:47,599
meteor society has a has a system

1569
00:52:53,030 --> 00:52:50,800
or actually all sky 7 has a system where

1570
00:52:55,030 --> 00:52:53,040
it sees seven little cameras in this and

1571
00:52:57,109 --> 00:52:55,040
it looks like a flying saucer right

1572
00:52:59,030 --> 00:52:57,119
uh and you you put this up on your roof

1573
00:53:00,870 --> 00:52:59,040
on scaffolding

1574
00:53:03,270 --> 00:53:00,880
and it has a little

1575
00:53:06,150 --> 00:53:03,280
uh jetson computer

1576
00:53:08,230 --> 00:53:06,160
uh made basically for image processing

1577
00:53:10,630 --> 00:53:08,240
and those two things now it will just

1578
00:53:11,829 --> 00:53:10,640
monitor the sky for meteors right

1579
00:53:15,190 --> 00:53:11,839
because

1580
00:53:16,950 --> 00:53:15,200
you get big money if you can find a

1581
00:53:18,950 --> 00:53:16,960
meteor because you can sell it to you

1582
00:53:20,470 --> 00:53:18,960
even if you sell it for good right for

1583
00:53:22,309 --> 00:53:20,480
science you can sell it for a lot of

1584
00:53:24,069 --> 00:53:22,319
money i think it's a thousand dollars a

1585
00:53:26,150 --> 00:53:24,079
gram is what they're going for and some

1586
00:53:29,430 --> 00:53:26,160
of these if you find an actual meteorite

1587
00:53:31,430 --> 00:53:29,440
it's like kilograms you know 20 could be

1588
00:53:34,150 --> 00:53:31,440
10 20 kilograms

1589
00:53:35,430 --> 00:53:34,160
so these are big bucks right and

1590
00:53:37,030 --> 00:53:35,440
if you get enough systems linked

1591
00:53:38,870 --> 00:53:37,040
together

1592
00:53:40,390 --> 00:53:38,880
you can

1593
00:53:41,829 --> 00:53:40,400
there's an ellipse right there's only

1594
00:53:43,910 --> 00:53:41,839
two right now in portugal two of those

1595
00:53:45,589 --> 00:53:43,920
systems and so it's a 20 kilometer

1596
00:53:47,030 --> 00:53:45,599
ellipse right so it's that's gonna be

1597
00:53:47,750 --> 00:53:47,040
pretty hard to actually find it yeah

1598
00:53:50,790 --> 00:53:47,760
yeah

1599
00:53:52,870 --> 00:53:50,800
a meteorite but what also you get is

1600
00:53:54,950 --> 00:53:52,880
uh you get where it came from right so

1601
00:53:57,030 --> 00:53:54,960
they can if they can accurately guess

1602
00:53:58,790 --> 00:53:57,040
the trajectory or not gas but get the

1603
00:54:00,549 --> 00:53:58,800
trajectory

1604
00:54:02,470 --> 00:54:00,559
then they can tell exactly where it

1605
00:54:03,349 --> 00:54:02,480
formed where it came from in the solar

1606
00:54:07,910 --> 00:54:03,359
system

1607
00:54:10,309 --> 00:54:07,920
things have hit mars

1608
00:54:12,150 --> 00:54:10,319
i guess there's been pieces of mars

1609
00:54:13,589 --> 00:54:12,160
pieces of the moon

1610
00:54:15,270 --> 00:54:13,599
that have landed on earth so there's

1611
00:54:16,950 --> 00:54:15,280
tons of science to get about the solar

1612
00:54:19,270 --> 00:54:16,960
system

1613
00:54:21,430 --> 00:54:19,280
as well but it's hard right and and for

1614
00:54:23,910 --> 00:54:21,440
them they don't need real time they can

1615
00:54:25,030 --> 00:54:23,920
just do it after the fact uh you know

1616
00:54:29,030 --> 00:54:25,040
they can

1617
00:54:31,990 --> 00:54:29,040
then post process

1618
00:54:33,349 --> 00:54:32,000
right yeah so with skyhub basically when

1619
00:54:34,630 --> 00:54:33,359
it died

1620
00:54:36,549 --> 00:54:34,640
um

1621
00:54:39,349 --> 00:54:36,559
the europeans essentially picked it up

1622
00:54:40,950 --> 00:54:39,359
you know go go europe richard hoff

1623
00:54:43,270 --> 00:54:40,960
basically took over

1624
00:54:45,349 --> 00:54:43,280
took over everything they had and now

1625
00:54:47,030 --> 00:54:45,359
rebuilding their own own system called

1626
00:54:48,549 --> 00:54:47,040
sky 360.

1627
00:54:49,990 --> 00:54:48,559
now it's a european lead initiative

1628
00:54:52,470 --> 00:54:50,000
right so we'll see

1629
00:54:54,630 --> 00:54:52,480
see if europe can make it happen

1630
00:54:57,030 --> 00:54:54,640
um so that thing

1631
00:54:58,390 --> 00:54:57,040
is being developed now so what we found

1632
00:55:01,190 --> 00:54:58,400
is that

1633
00:55:02,470 --> 00:55:01,200
so the meteor system right they can they

1634
00:55:03,910 --> 00:55:02,480
don't have to worry about processing

1635
00:55:05,670 --> 00:55:03,920
real time because they don't need a

1636
00:55:07,270 --> 00:55:05,680
really good image

1637
00:55:08,870 --> 00:55:07,280
and that's where skyhub i think was kind

1638
00:55:10,309 --> 00:55:08,880
of falling short because with those

1639
00:55:12,630 --> 00:55:10,319
little camera like your little camera on

1640
00:55:15,750 --> 00:55:12,640
your phone is is is jack right that

1641
00:55:17,589 --> 00:55:15,760
little sensor sure is is not good enough

1642
00:55:19,750 --> 00:55:17,599
and and that's really why we don't i

1643
00:55:22,069 --> 00:55:19,760
think why we don't have any good

1644
00:55:23,829 --> 00:55:22,079
videos or pictures of

1645
00:55:25,190 --> 00:55:23,839
uaps right

1646
00:55:27,589 --> 00:55:25,200
for a lot of reasons it seems like they

1647
00:55:30,069 --> 00:55:27,599
affect digital equipment if if if all

1648
00:55:31,829 --> 00:55:30,079
this is real right which sure

1649
00:55:33,349 --> 00:55:31,839
we're trying to find but let's say they

1650
00:55:36,309 --> 00:55:33,359
do affect they're real and they do

1651
00:55:37,910 --> 00:55:36,319
affect uh digital electronic equipment

1652
00:55:39,670 --> 00:55:37,920
if you're close enough

1653
00:55:41,030 --> 00:55:39,680
with your phone to take a good picture

1654
00:55:42,470 --> 00:55:41,040
chances are it's not going to work or

1655
00:55:44,150 --> 00:55:42,480
there's going to have some issues if you

1656
00:55:45,510 --> 00:55:44,160
even remember right i mean if you're

1657
00:55:46,870 --> 00:55:45,520
right there standing with an alien or

1658
00:55:48,150 --> 00:55:46,880
something you know you're really going

1659
00:55:49,990 --> 00:55:48,160
to be like pull out your phone and take

1660
00:55:52,150 --> 00:55:50,000
a picture um

1661
00:55:55,589 --> 00:55:52,160
i i mean i hope you do right and a video

1662
00:55:56,549 --> 00:55:55,599
and selfie with you in it

1663
00:56:00,230 --> 00:55:56,559
but

1664
00:56:01,910 --> 00:56:00,240
probably not gonna work

1665
00:56:05,190 --> 00:56:01,920
further away now you just have this

1666
00:56:06,390 --> 00:56:05,200
little tiny crappy sensor right um and

1667
00:56:09,349 --> 00:56:06,400
yeah and when you get into space

1668
00:56:11,670 --> 00:56:09,359
applications uh the first thing

1669
00:56:12,950 --> 00:56:11,680
um they get they ask you is what's

1670
00:56:15,030 --> 00:56:12,960
what's the range that you need to be

1671
00:56:16,549 --> 00:56:15,040
able to see things and in space it's

1672
00:56:19,430 --> 00:56:16,559
hundreds of kilometers

1673
00:56:20,470 --> 00:56:19,440
so now you need a you need a big sensor

1674
00:56:22,630 --> 00:56:20,480
uh because you're not gonna be able to

1675
00:56:24,710 --> 00:56:22,640
see anything and and that's what you

1676
00:56:25,670 --> 00:56:24,720
need a one meters you really need a one

1677
00:56:27,030 --> 00:56:25,680
meter

1678
00:56:28,309 --> 00:56:27,040
um

1679
00:56:30,630 --> 00:56:28,319
telescope

1680
00:56:32,309 --> 00:56:30,640
in space to be able to see anything with

1681
00:56:33,829 --> 00:56:32,319
any sort of good

1682
00:56:36,390 --> 00:56:33,839
um

1683
00:56:37,829 --> 00:56:36,400
resolution on earth

1684
00:56:39,349 --> 00:56:37,839
so that's expensive those are like 10

1685
00:56:41,750 --> 00:56:39,359
million dollars i guess

1686
00:56:44,150 --> 00:56:41,760
so wow so how do you see the development

1687
00:56:47,430 --> 00:56:44,160
over the coming years because

1688
00:56:49,030 --> 00:56:47,440
originally skyhub was a a public

1689
00:56:50,630 --> 00:56:49,040
led initiative but it was something the

1690
00:56:52,549 --> 00:56:50,640
public could buy into

1691
00:56:54,789 --> 00:56:52,559
with their own systems for like between

1692
00:56:56,309 --> 00:56:54,799
you know under a thousand dollars to

1693
00:56:58,230 --> 00:56:56,319
a couple of thousand dollars for a more

1694
00:57:01,510 --> 00:56:58,240
advanced system do you see that still

1695
00:57:02,630 --> 00:57:01,520
coming into play with sky 360 in a year

1696
00:57:04,549 --> 00:57:02,640
or so

1697
00:57:08,069 --> 00:57:04,559
that's the whole plan yeah so by quarter

1698
00:57:09,750 --> 00:57:08,079
four should be a you know solid

1699
00:57:10,950 --> 00:57:09,760
working system that we can start

1700
00:57:13,190 --> 00:57:10,960
deploying

1701
00:57:14,549 --> 00:57:13,200
uh is basically right now it's yeah

1702
00:57:16,470 --> 00:57:14,559
there's there's different teams so it's

1703
00:57:18,870 --> 00:57:16,480
divided out so i meet you know i just

1704
00:57:20,630 --> 00:57:18,880
went to my first meeting last week

1705
00:57:22,309 --> 00:57:20,640
but anyone can join if you're interested

1706
00:57:23,670 --> 00:57:22,319
you know we have technical knowledge

1707
00:57:25,349 --> 00:57:23,680
you're interested in building one of

1708
00:57:27,190 --> 00:57:25,359
these systems or just helping right

1709
00:57:30,630 --> 00:57:27,200
right now we need we need some we need

1710
00:57:32,630 --> 00:57:30,640
some good ai or software developers

1711
00:57:34,630 --> 00:57:32,640
you know who have kind of deep code

1712
00:57:36,390 --> 00:57:34,640
ability um i don't think it's needed

1713
00:57:37,910 --> 00:57:36,400
deep code ability but knowledge of deep

1714
00:57:39,670 --> 00:57:37,920
code so that they know how to make it

1715
00:57:41,030 --> 00:57:39,680
simpler

1716
00:57:42,309 --> 00:57:41,040
but there's yeah there's people right

1717
00:57:45,109 --> 00:57:42,319
now involved and they're asking for

1718
00:57:47,270 --> 00:57:45,119
people to join so it's sky 360 on

1719
00:57:48,789 --> 00:57:47,280
discord so you go to their discord say

1720
00:57:51,270 --> 00:57:48,799
i'm here to you know these are my skills

1721
00:57:53,829 --> 00:57:51,280
i'm here to help or just get information

1722
00:57:56,309 --> 00:57:53,839
and they direct you in different ways so

1723
00:57:58,870 --> 00:57:56,319
that is the idea is

1724
00:58:01,109 --> 00:57:58,880
citizens right or people interested

1725
00:58:02,789 --> 00:58:01,119
groups could be uap groups i think a uap

1726
00:58:04,950 --> 00:58:02,799
group would be a perfect idea right

1727
00:58:07,430 --> 00:58:04,960
actually motivated uap groups

1728
00:58:09,349 --> 00:58:07,440
um you know with he's i think he said

1729
00:58:12,150 --> 00:58:09,359
with five systems you can cover all of

1730
00:58:14,230 --> 00:58:12,160
los angeles um and like you mentioned

1731
00:58:15,910 --> 00:58:14,240
these systems you can get

1732
00:58:17,829 --> 00:58:15,920
uh looks like the low end is gonna be

1733
00:58:19,430 --> 00:58:17,839
difficult uh you know they have three

1734
00:58:20,950 --> 00:58:19,440
tiers right now one thousand three

1735
00:58:23,750 --> 00:58:20,960
thousand and five thousand dollars is

1736
00:58:25,190 --> 00:58:23,760
what they're aiming for okay um i've

1737
00:58:27,030 --> 00:58:25,200
i've done a little manufacturing in the

1738
00:58:28,630 --> 00:58:27,040
past and you know i'm like you know just

1739
00:58:30,710 --> 00:58:28,640
go with one

1740
00:58:32,390 --> 00:58:30,720
uh like three thousand you know or pick

1741
00:58:33,510 --> 00:58:32,400
one at five thousand dollars whatever it

1742
00:58:34,950 --> 00:58:33,520
is

1743
00:58:37,270 --> 00:58:34,960
and then get that get that system

1744
00:58:39,589 --> 00:58:37,280
working so grassroots people or groups

1745
00:58:41,510 --> 00:58:39,599
of people would would buy the systems

1746
00:58:42,950 --> 00:58:41,520
from amazon global right so it's all

1747
00:58:49,349 --> 00:58:42,960
sourced wherever you live is you could

1748
00:59:00,470 --> 00:58:52,950
oh we've lost you there briefly you've

1749
00:59:03,750 --> 00:59:02,309
right we've lost chris guys can anybody

1750
00:59:05,910 --> 00:59:03,760
in the chat let me know if you've lost

1751
00:59:08,630 --> 00:59:05,920
me or chris

1752
00:59:14,870 --> 00:59:10,549
we'll get him back don't worry

1753
00:59:18,390 --> 00:59:16,309
or am i am i

1754
00:59:20,150 --> 00:59:18,400
dipping out as well

1755
00:59:21,910 --> 00:59:20,160
i'm here right okay

1756
00:59:25,270 --> 00:59:21,920
let's drop chris out

1757
00:59:27,030 --> 00:59:25,280
and we'll wait for him to jump back in

1758
00:59:28,150 --> 00:59:27,040
these things happen

1759
00:59:29,349 --> 00:59:28,160
um

1760
00:59:31,190 --> 00:59:29,359
i'm just going to give a quick shout

1761
00:59:33,430 --> 00:59:31,200
patrick noble thank you so much for the

1762
00:59:35,430 --> 00:59:33,440
the 999 donation

1763
00:59:37,430 --> 00:59:35,440
and brian for the 20 super sticker thank

1764
00:59:39,670 --> 00:59:37,440
you so much

1765
00:59:40,789 --> 00:59:39,680
i appreciate all the support here guys i

1766
00:59:42,630 --> 00:59:40,799
really do

1767
00:59:43,910 --> 00:59:42,640
if i've missed anyone i'm sorry the the

1768
00:59:45,190 --> 00:59:43,920
chat's been moving quick and i've

1769
00:59:47,270 --> 00:59:45,200
obviously been quite involved in this

1770
00:59:49,270 --> 00:59:47,280
conversation

1771
00:59:51,030 --> 00:59:49,280
i've lost chris completely he's he's

1772
00:59:53,829 --> 00:59:51,040
been dumped out of the green room not by

1773
00:59:55,670 --> 00:59:53,839
me um hopefully he'll jump back in we've

1774
00:59:57,990 --> 00:59:55,680
got some more questions to ask him so

1775
00:59:59,430 --> 00:59:58,000
guys hang around if you're here if

1776
01:00:01,750 --> 00:59:59,440
anybody wants to chime in with any

1777
01:00:03,589 --> 01:00:01,760
questions i can now save them pop them

1778
01:00:06,309 --> 01:00:03,599
in a separate little box to ask him at

1779
01:00:08,950 --> 01:00:06,319
the end of the interview

1780
01:00:11,430 --> 01:00:08,960
if he pops back in

1781
01:00:13,510 --> 01:00:11,440
i'll keep my messages and emails open in

1782
01:00:18,069 --> 01:00:13,520
case

1783
01:00:19,670 --> 01:00:18,079
or major issue or the cia got him i see

1784
01:00:22,069 --> 01:00:19,680
a few of you commenting

1785
01:00:23,829 --> 01:00:22,079
and i think we're good chris are you

1786
01:00:26,630 --> 01:00:23,839
there am i here

1787
01:00:28,549 --> 01:00:26,640
i can hear you i can't see you all right

1788
01:00:30,390 --> 01:00:28,559
my computer just reset man i'm sorry let

1789
01:00:35,829 --> 01:00:30,400
me let me come

1790
01:00:39,190 --> 01:00:37,430
all good man these things happen on

1791
01:00:40,630 --> 01:00:39,200
these live streams you know it's all

1792
01:00:42,630 --> 01:00:40,640
good if i was recording this i could

1793
01:00:44,230 --> 01:00:42,640
just edit that out but hey

1794
01:00:45,829 --> 01:00:44,240
i prefer to do these things live have

1795
01:00:47,349 --> 01:00:45,839
you guys here in the chat

1796
01:00:49,190 --> 01:00:47,359
it's been an absolutely fascinating

1797
01:00:51,190 --> 01:00:49,200
conversation so far so i'm really glad

1798
01:00:54,870 --> 01:00:51,200
that we've done this one for the

1799
01:00:56,390 --> 01:00:54,880
the first show of 2022 um let's just go

1800
01:00:57,589 --> 01:00:56,400
through some some chat here it seems

1801
01:00:59,829 --> 01:00:57,599
like you guys have an awesome

1802
01:01:04,549 --> 01:00:59,839
conversation anyway

1803
01:01:09,829 --> 01:01:07,910
i got a couple of questions

1804
01:01:11,109 --> 01:01:09,839
strafe ah good to see straight wilson

1805
01:01:12,950 --> 01:01:11,119
here strafe i'm gonna ask him your

1806
01:01:14,950 --> 01:01:12,960
question about the uh

1807
01:01:16,309 --> 01:01:14,960
the navy drone swarms

1808
01:01:17,910 --> 01:01:16,319
2019

1809
01:01:19,430 --> 01:01:17,920
that's a really good one we literally

1810
01:01:21,430 --> 01:01:19,440
only a couple of questions on my list

1811
01:01:22,870 --> 01:01:21,440
left so

1812
01:01:25,030 --> 01:01:22,880
yeah

1813
01:01:26,950 --> 01:01:25,040
not too much longer i appreciate it guys

1814
01:01:28,470 --> 01:01:26,960
we've got 96 people watching right now

1815
01:01:30,630 --> 01:01:28,480
that's incredible

1816
01:01:32,390 --> 01:01:30,640
thank you so much to everyone for being

1817
01:01:34,789 --> 01:01:32,400
here i really appreciate it

1818
01:01:36,710 --> 01:01:34,799
um if you want to ask any questions feel

1819
01:01:37,990 --> 01:01:36,720
free i'm still taking questions for

1820
01:01:39,829 --> 01:01:38,000
chris if there's anything that we've

1821
01:01:42,870 --> 01:01:39,839
talked about that

1822
01:01:44,549 --> 01:01:42,880
that you want to uh to know about

1823
01:01:45,750 --> 01:01:44,559
it's absolutely fascinating but i

1824
01:01:47,109 --> 01:01:45,760
recommend everybody go and check out

1825
01:01:49,750 --> 01:01:47,119
chris's channel

1826
01:01:53,190 --> 01:01:49,760
subscribe but also check out that turkey

1827
01:01:56,390 --> 01:01:53,200
ufo stuff that he researched covered did

1828
01:01:58,950 --> 01:01:56,400
all the the maths and and science

1829
01:02:01,190 --> 01:01:58,960
discovering on all the angles of

1830
01:02:03,190 --> 01:02:01,200
man it's mind-blowing absolutely

1831
01:02:04,549 --> 01:02:03,200
mind-blowing right he's just jumped back

1832
01:02:05,830 --> 01:02:04,559
in

1833
01:02:10,069 --> 01:02:05,840
there he is man

1834
01:02:12,470 --> 01:02:10,079
[Laughter]

1835
01:02:14,069 --> 01:02:12,480
here we go

1836
01:02:15,349 --> 01:02:14,079
we get to see the green screen behind

1837
01:02:18,230 --> 01:02:15,359
the scenes

1838
01:02:20,789 --> 01:02:18,240
[Laughter]

1839
01:02:21,910 --> 01:02:20,799
all right that's terrible man

1840
01:02:23,670 --> 01:02:21,920
sorry about that

1841
01:02:25,109 --> 01:02:23,680
hey man these things happen i was just

1842
01:02:26,710 --> 01:02:25,119
saying to the chat these things happen

1843
01:02:27,829 --> 01:02:26,720
on the live streams man so don't don't

1844
01:02:29,510 --> 01:02:27,839
worry about it

1845
01:02:31,750 --> 01:02:29,520
are you on your own forever and then

1846
01:02:33,349 --> 01:02:31,760
live stream it goes okay you're on your

1847
01:02:35,510 --> 01:02:33,359
cell phone now

1848
01:02:37,990 --> 01:02:35,520
yep this is my cell phone let's see oh

1849
01:02:39,190 --> 01:02:38,000
man that's all good it looks fine i'm

1850
01:02:40,870 --> 01:02:39,200
literally we're only a few questions

1851
01:02:42,549 --> 01:02:40,880
away from what i had left said you know

1852
01:02:43,829 --> 01:02:42,559
we've gone over the hours so don't worry

1853
01:02:45,190 --> 01:02:43,839
about it man

1854
01:02:47,910 --> 01:02:45,200
um

1855
01:02:49,829 --> 01:02:47,920
that we had from strafe wilson in the

1856
01:02:52,309 --> 01:02:49,839
chat are you following the story

1857
01:02:56,789 --> 01:02:52,319
regarding the ufos the channel islands

1858
01:03:00,390 --> 01:02:56,799
and the navy drone swarms from 2019

1859
01:03:03,349 --> 01:03:00,400
from 2019 i did just read one i think

1860
01:03:04,710 --> 01:03:03,359
yes someone on youtube sent me a link

1861
01:03:06,150 --> 01:03:04,720
but that's all i read yeah i haven't

1862
01:03:07,670 --> 01:03:06,160
heard anything else about it actually

1863
01:03:09,430 --> 01:03:07,680
has

1864
01:03:10,950 --> 01:03:09,440
are they seeing drum swarms i mean is

1865
01:03:12,390 --> 01:03:10,960
that a common occurrence

1866
01:03:14,230 --> 01:03:12,400
well i think this story in particular

1867
01:03:16,549 --> 01:03:14,240
leads into some of the stuff that jeremy

1868
01:03:18,950 --> 01:03:16,559
corbell released last year as well

1869
01:03:19,990 --> 01:03:18,960
these anomalous things off of the west

1870
01:03:21,829 --> 01:03:20,000
coast

1871
01:03:24,630 --> 01:03:21,839
um i just wasn't sure if it was

1872
01:03:26,630 --> 01:03:24,640
something you'd looked into or not uh

1873
01:03:27,750 --> 01:03:26,640
no i i saw it

1874
01:03:29,270 --> 01:03:27,760
but that's it

1875
01:03:31,349 --> 01:03:29,280
no no it's all good man i've been

1876
01:03:32,870 --> 01:03:31,359
following the story but we've i think

1877
01:03:34,710 --> 01:03:32,880
it's another one of those where we have

1878
01:03:36,630 --> 01:03:34,720
a sort of lack of data

1879
01:03:40,069 --> 01:03:36,640
where we can't quite go any further with

1880
01:03:42,789 --> 01:03:40,950
so

1881
01:03:44,309 --> 01:03:42,799
yeah i mean i'll if you have any more

1882
01:03:46,710 --> 01:03:44,319
data on i'd look into it all i saw was

1883
01:03:49,670 --> 01:03:46,720
that one article yeah i didn't see

1884
01:03:51,109 --> 01:03:49,680
anything else no worries man um i guess

1885
01:03:52,630 --> 01:03:51,119
my final question was i just wanted to

1886
01:03:54,230 --> 01:03:52,640
see your thoughts on things like the

1887
01:03:56,950 --> 01:03:54,240
galileo project

1888
01:03:59,190 --> 01:03:56,960
uapx the james webb telescope all these

1889
01:04:00,230 --> 01:03:59,200
kind of other scientific things that are

1890
01:04:01,670 --> 01:04:00,240
kind of

1891
01:04:04,069 --> 01:04:01,680
i guess related

1892
01:04:06,470 --> 01:04:04,079
to disclosure and we know we don't have

1893
01:04:07,990 --> 01:04:06,480
to just rely on the government and this

1894
01:04:11,270 --> 01:04:08,000
uap office

1895
01:04:13,910 --> 01:04:11,280
do you see any uh value in all of that

1896
01:04:15,829 --> 01:04:13,920
yeah 100 um

1897
01:04:17,990 --> 01:04:15,839
yeah i mean i'm just here i i don't have

1898
01:04:21,109 --> 01:04:18,000
any personal agenda i'm just here to

1899
01:04:23,029 --> 01:04:21,119
help you know any way i can um

1900
01:04:24,870 --> 01:04:23,039
but what i've seen the jame webb space

1901
01:04:27,430 --> 01:04:24,880
teleco i'm so pumped on that thing so

1902
01:04:29,190 --> 01:04:27,440
yeah every day not every day but i did

1903
01:04:31,589 --> 01:04:29,200
check it today i saw that they deployed

1904
01:04:32,470 --> 01:04:31,599
the sunshade did you see that yeah yeah

1905
01:04:35,430 --> 01:04:32,480
yeah

1906
01:04:37,190 --> 01:04:35,440
that's that seemed like the most

1907
01:04:38,470 --> 01:04:37,200
complicated part at least it's protected

1908
01:04:39,349 --> 01:04:38,480
right because if the sun shade's not

1909
01:04:42,069 --> 01:04:39,359
there

1910
01:04:44,630 --> 01:04:42,079
it's probably gonna burn up you know

1911
01:04:47,430 --> 01:04:44,640
so at least like the sun shades there

1912
01:04:49,589 --> 01:04:47,440
i also saw i also heard that half of the

1913
01:04:50,950 --> 01:04:49,599
half of the systems are working so it

1914
01:04:53,270 --> 01:04:50,960
sounds like you'll at least get half of

1915
01:04:55,029 --> 01:04:53,280
it working even if even if none of the

1916
01:04:55,990 --> 01:04:55,039
rest works from now on

1917
01:04:57,270 --> 01:04:56,000
100

1918
01:04:59,589 --> 01:04:57,280
yeah yes

1919
01:05:01,190 --> 01:04:59,599
yeah it's huge james space telescope

1920
01:05:03,349 --> 01:05:01,200
everybody keeps talking about you know

1921
01:05:05,349 --> 01:05:03,359
when they look back towards the big bang

1922
01:05:08,309 --> 01:05:05,359
um but i'm really excited when they turn

1923
01:05:10,710 --> 01:05:08,319
it towards the center of our galaxy

1924
01:05:12,150 --> 01:05:10,720
i'm super pumped um because

1925
01:05:15,109 --> 01:05:12,160
we we've never seen to the center of our

1926
01:05:18,230 --> 01:05:15,119
galaxy at least um clearly because of

1927
01:05:20,309 --> 01:05:18,240
the dust you know the space dust sure

1928
01:05:22,789 --> 01:05:20,319
so ir i guess can see right through that

1929
01:05:25,349 --> 01:05:22,799
stuff in infrared so we we should be

1930
01:05:26,870 --> 01:05:25,359
able to get like some high def images of

1931
01:05:28,069 --> 01:05:26,880
the center of our galaxy that's super

1932
01:05:30,870 --> 01:05:28,079
exciting

1933
01:05:32,950 --> 01:05:30,880
um or what be even more mind-blowing to

1934
01:05:34,150 --> 01:05:32,960
me is if we just pointed at jupiter or

1935
01:05:35,990 --> 01:05:34,160
something

1936
01:05:36,789 --> 01:05:36,000
yeah because i think you can now you can

1937
01:05:39,829 --> 01:05:36,799
look

1938
01:05:41,270 --> 01:05:39,839
through the through a lot of the clouds

1939
01:05:42,870 --> 01:05:41,280
uh i i don't know

1940
01:05:43,670 --> 01:05:42,880
not sure but i think it could give us

1941
01:05:46,789 --> 01:05:43,680
some

1942
01:05:48,309 --> 01:05:46,799
good insight into in our in our uh solar

1943
01:05:49,349 --> 01:05:48,319
system

1944
01:05:50,950 --> 01:05:49,359
um

1945
01:05:53,349 --> 01:05:50,960
i think it's great yeah ir man that's

1946
01:05:55,349 --> 01:05:53,359
what works so well it seems like the big

1947
01:05:57,349 --> 01:05:55,359
asa right uh actively electronically

1948
01:06:00,230 --> 01:05:57,359
scanned array radars kind of have given

1949
01:06:01,750 --> 01:06:00,240
us point outs to these uaps and then ir

1950
01:06:03,109 --> 01:06:01,760
has really kind of gotten us our best

1951
01:06:06,230 --> 01:06:03,119
views of them

1952
01:06:08,870 --> 01:06:06,240
yeah so yeah basically james webb is a

1953
01:06:11,109 --> 01:06:08,880
giant super giant ir detector

1954
01:06:13,109 --> 01:06:11,119
in space you know so

1955
01:06:15,750 --> 01:06:13,119
yeah i'm very excited about it um

1956
01:06:17,670 --> 01:06:15,760
uapx super excited they just it sounds

1957
01:06:19,750 --> 01:06:17,680
like they had an nda that they that

1958
01:06:20,950 --> 01:06:19,760
they're waiting to end

1959
01:06:22,150 --> 01:06:20,960
yep um

1960
01:06:25,829 --> 01:06:22,160
so

1961
01:06:28,950 --> 01:06:25,839
march or april

1962
01:06:30,870 --> 01:06:28,960
april yeah and yeah

1963
01:06:32,549 --> 01:06:30,880
and kevin knew he's confirmed that

1964
01:06:35,109 --> 01:06:32,559
they're gonna

1965
01:06:37,029 --> 01:06:35,119
gonna release all the information

1966
01:06:38,789 --> 01:06:37,039
and i know he's still on i i invited him

1967
01:06:40,870 --> 01:06:38,799
onto my show actually i wanted to talk

1968
01:06:42,470 --> 01:06:40,880
to him um haven't heard back yet uh

1969
01:06:43,829 --> 01:06:42,480
hopefully he comes on

1970
01:06:45,270 --> 01:06:43,839
they will man

1971
01:06:47,510 --> 01:06:45,280
he's out there working

1972
01:06:49,029 --> 01:06:47,520
yeah yeah dude honestly just send him

1973
01:06:51,109 --> 01:06:49,039
another just a little give me a little

1974
01:06:53,109 --> 01:06:51,119
nudge

1975
01:06:56,069 --> 01:06:53,119
if i can get him you could get him man

1976
01:06:57,270 --> 01:06:56,079
has he been okay cool yeah

1977
01:06:59,029 --> 01:06:57,280
yeah so

1978
01:07:00,230 --> 01:06:59,039
yeah i really want to talk to him yeah

1979
01:07:01,589 --> 01:07:00,240
uapx

1980
01:07:03,670 --> 01:07:01,599
they seem awesome as well you know i've

1981
01:07:05,589 --> 01:07:03,680
talked to gary voorhees a little bit uh

1982
01:07:07,430 --> 01:07:05,599
but that's it and so i really want to

1983
01:07:08,309 --> 01:07:07,440
talk to kevin knuth

1984
01:07:10,069 --> 01:07:08,319
and

1985
01:07:11,589 --> 01:07:10,079
i know they've done out in the in that

1986
01:07:15,750 --> 01:07:11,599
area you're talking about i think down

1987
01:07:17,270 --> 01:07:15,760
in the southwest or south california

1988
01:07:18,309 --> 01:07:17,280
definitely

1989
01:07:20,150 --> 01:07:18,319
yeah so i

1990
01:07:22,549 --> 01:07:20,160
yeah i'm very happy for them congrats to

1991
01:07:24,470 --> 01:07:22,559
them on on their success so far and i

1992
01:07:27,589 --> 01:07:24,480
yeah i'm excited and then what was the

1993
01:07:33,510 --> 01:07:30,630
the uepx project uh galileo project yeah

1994
01:07:34,789 --> 01:07:33,520
i know if a few people um were working

1995
01:07:36,069 --> 01:07:34,799
on it

1996
01:07:38,390 --> 01:07:36,079
uh

1997
01:07:39,589 --> 01:07:38,400
kind of weird building weird antennas

1998
01:07:41,990 --> 01:07:39,599
and

1999
01:07:43,670 --> 01:07:42,000
transmitters you know in kind of secret

2000
01:07:45,910 --> 01:07:43,680
i know about that

2001
01:07:47,910 --> 01:07:45,920
um so i know there it seems like they're

2002
01:07:49,510 --> 01:07:47,920
being open-minded you know and people

2003
01:07:50,870 --> 01:07:49,520
are volunteering

2004
01:07:53,270 --> 01:07:50,880
they are using some of these people that

2005
01:07:55,510 --> 01:07:53,280
volunteer

2006
01:07:56,710 --> 01:07:55,520
but um yeah i'm curious what's their

2007
01:07:59,349 --> 01:07:56,720
time i want to beat them you know you

2008
01:08:00,870 --> 01:07:59,359
mentioned the sky 360. my goal

2009
01:08:02,549 --> 01:08:00,880
i hope they can't get its stuff out in

2010
01:08:03,349 --> 01:08:02,559
less than a year you know because that's

2011
01:08:05,430 --> 01:08:03,359
sure

2012
01:08:07,270 --> 01:08:05,440
kind of our timeline um

2013
01:08:09,190 --> 01:08:07,280
and just the final the final thought on

2014
01:08:10,789 --> 01:08:09,200
that is that the point to zoom so the

2015
01:08:13,430 --> 01:08:10,799
way we're gonna get around that or wait

2016
01:08:16,470 --> 01:08:13,440
sky 360 i didn't think of this sky 360

2017
01:08:18,470 --> 01:08:16,480
they have that initial fisheye camera

2018
01:08:21,110 --> 01:08:18,480
like like all sky has to find the

2019
01:08:23,669 --> 01:08:21,120
meteors but then real time

2020
01:08:25,269 --> 01:08:23,679
you have a zoom camera that can really

2021
01:08:26,630 --> 01:08:25,279
zoom in and so this thing will be on a

2022
01:08:28,149 --> 01:08:26,640
swivel

2023
01:08:30,229 --> 01:08:28,159
and you'll have the fisheye will point

2024
01:08:31,590 --> 01:08:30,239
out something weird like hey what is

2025
01:08:35,269 --> 01:08:31,600
that over there and then the point to

2026
01:08:37,349 --> 01:08:35,279
zoom real time points and zooms in

2027
01:08:39,030 --> 01:08:37,359
um so it's that that real time

2028
01:08:40,070 --> 01:08:39,040
processing you know like teslas have to

2029
01:08:41,669 --> 01:08:40,080
do that right because they're driving

2030
01:08:42,950 --> 01:08:41,679
down the road they have to immediately

2031
01:08:44,870 --> 01:08:42,960
label something

2032
01:08:46,709 --> 01:08:44,880
of course yeah so hopefully hopefully we

2033
01:08:48,630 --> 01:08:46,719
get that and

2034
01:08:50,390 --> 01:08:48,640
and i'm wondering what they're i i

2035
01:08:51,910 --> 01:08:50,400
believe that they're not working on that

2036
01:08:54,229 --> 01:08:51,920
level of stuff they're not they're

2037
01:08:55,990 --> 01:08:54,239
they're on larger systems

2038
01:08:58,709 --> 01:08:56,000
yeah um and so i'm aiming for the

2039
01:09:01,829 --> 01:08:58,719
grassroots kind of ied you know like

2040
01:09:04,229 --> 01:09:01,839
afghanistan iraq we couldn't beat the uh

2041
01:09:06,470 --> 01:09:04,239
improvised explosive devices right

2042
01:09:08,789 --> 01:09:06,480
they're just they're so simple they're

2043
01:09:11,430 --> 01:09:08,799
so effective and there's like

2044
01:09:13,349 --> 01:09:11,440
thousands of them you know you just even

2045
01:09:14,709 --> 01:09:13,359
if you have a technological advantage

2046
01:09:16,309 --> 01:09:14,719
like which we did we had a huge

2047
01:09:18,390 --> 01:09:16,319
technological advantage

2048
01:09:19,749 --> 01:09:18,400
sure billion of billions of dollars

2049
01:09:22,390 --> 01:09:19,759
advantage you know

2050
01:09:24,550 --> 01:09:22,400
over how many 20 years uh and we still

2051
01:09:25,349 --> 01:09:24,560
didn't solve the ied problem you know

2052
01:09:26,630 --> 01:09:25,359
yeah

2053
01:09:28,870 --> 01:09:26,640
and why because

2054
01:09:31,349 --> 01:09:28,880
they're everywhere uh they're very hard

2055
01:09:33,030 --> 01:09:31,359
to identify they're passive right so

2056
01:09:34,950 --> 01:09:33,040
they're not emitting anything it's hard

2057
01:09:36,309 --> 01:09:34,960
to so that's what i want to make is just

2058
01:09:38,229 --> 01:09:36,319
a passive

2059
01:09:40,950 --> 01:09:38,239
all the military you know the air force

2060
01:09:43,189 --> 01:09:40,960
people are like oh my god no i want to

2061
01:09:44,709 --> 01:09:43,199
make a passive system that

2062
01:09:47,349 --> 01:09:44,719
is cheap to build

2063
01:09:49,590 --> 01:09:47,359
and goes everywhere

2064
01:09:51,430 --> 01:09:49,600
and push whatever

2065
01:09:52,309 --> 01:09:51,440
if there's technological entities that

2066
01:09:53,829 --> 01:09:52,319
aren't

2067
01:09:56,470 --> 01:09:53,839
allowing us to see them or whatever

2068
01:09:58,870 --> 01:09:56,480
which is one thesis then okay let's push

2069
01:09:59,830 --> 01:09:58,880
the test right push the test like how

2070
01:10:00,630 --> 01:09:59,840
good is that

2071
01:10:02,550 --> 01:10:00,640
right

2072
01:10:04,390 --> 01:10:02,560
it's probably really good but there's

2073
01:10:06,070 --> 01:10:04,400
always there's always holes man there's

2074
01:10:07,350 --> 01:10:06,080
always holes like

2075
01:10:09,110 --> 01:10:07,360
unfortunately

2076
01:10:10,950 --> 01:10:09,120
yeah yeah i mean we learned this

2077
01:10:12,470 --> 01:10:10,960
firsthand with ieds i mean there's

2078
01:10:14,790 --> 01:10:12,480
always a way through and simple tech

2079
01:10:16,229 --> 01:10:14,800
works you know bullets still work you

2080
01:10:17,669 --> 01:10:16,239
know we're in the age of missiles and

2081
01:10:20,070 --> 01:10:17,679
all these things but man a bullet is

2082
01:10:22,070 --> 01:10:20,080
still very effective can't jam it

2083
01:10:23,750 --> 01:10:22,080
um yeah so

2084
01:10:26,950 --> 01:10:23,760
yeah that's the hope is to is really to

2085
01:10:29,270 --> 01:10:26,960
beat the galileo project so i i i it's i

2086
01:10:30,550 --> 01:10:29,280
think it's awesome that there's like um

2087
01:10:31,669 --> 01:10:30,560
a race you know i think of it like a

2088
01:10:35,270 --> 01:10:31,679
race

2089
01:10:36,149 --> 01:10:35,280
i i want to work with those guys you

2090
01:10:38,149 --> 01:10:36,159
know

2091
01:10:39,750 --> 01:10:38,159
of course but from a different angle i i

2092
01:10:42,149 --> 01:10:39,760
like the european angle you know i like

2093
01:10:45,430 --> 01:10:42,159
having maybe

2094
01:10:47,189 --> 01:10:45,440
i'm gonna you know disclosure europe

2095
01:10:48,550 --> 01:10:47,199
and and bringing out the points here

2096
01:10:49,830 --> 01:10:48,560
like

2097
01:10:52,709 --> 01:10:49,840
turkey

2098
01:10:53,830 --> 01:10:52,719
ufo um there's also been another

2099
01:10:55,270 --> 01:10:53,840
their big

2100
01:10:58,070 --> 01:10:55,280
fat

2101
01:10:59,510 --> 01:10:58,080
you've heard of that in um in portugal

2102
01:11:14,149 --> 01:10:59,520
yeah

2103
01:11:15,590 --> 01:11:14,159
what do you think what do you think is

2104
01:11:16,870 --> 01:11:15,600
going to come out are we going to get

2105
01:11:18,149 --> 01:11:16,880
dude

2106
01:11:20,630 --> 01:11:18,159
no i

2107
01:11:22,310 --> 01:11:20,640
i'm taking it one step at a time

2108
01:11:24,630 --> 01:11:22,320
um

2109
01:11:27,030 --> 01:11:24,640
yeah i have no expectations i'm keeping

2110
01:11:27,830 --> 01:11:27,040
them low if anything comes great but i'm

2111
01:11:30,470 --> 01:11:27,840
just going to keep having the

2112
01:11:32,709 --> 01:11:30,480
conversation talking to the right people

2113
01:11:34,790 --> 01:11:32,719
trying to bring as much as we can out as

2114
01:11:36,709 --> 01:11:34,800
it comes out and that's kind of how i

2115
01:11:38,149 --> 01:11:36,719
feel my job is obviously i'm going to go

2116
01:11:40,229 --> 01:11:38,159
and do some boots on the ground work

2117
01:11:42,470 --> 01:11:40,239
myself in colombia that's going to be

2118
01:11:46,390 --> 01:11:42,480
great yes what is this

2119
01:11:50,149 --> 01:11:48,390
no i haven't man no this is my first

2120
01:11:54,070 --> 01:11:50,159
opportunity to actually

2121
01:11:56,229 --> 01:11:54,080
work with a full crew with ex-cia

2122
01:11:58,870 --> 01:11:56,239
technological technology guys with

2123
01:12:01,270 --> 01:11:58,880
drones and lidar radar and all that kind

2124
01:12:03,110 --> 01:12:01,280
of crazy technology and

2125
01:12:05,110 --> 01:12:03,120
literally just run through experiments

2126
01:12:06,870 --> 01:12:05,120
to kind of try and find out some

2127
01:12:10,149 --> 01:12:06,880
explanations of this particular

2128
01:12:11,030 --> 01:12:10,159
phenomena in this small spot in colombia

2129
01:12:13,270 --> 01:12:11,040
so

2130
01:12:15,110 --> 01:12:13,280
i guess we'll see

2131
01:12:17,350 --> 01:12:15,120
that's awesome man yeah it's

2132
01:12:19,350 --> 01:12:17,360
that's exciting um

2133
01:12:21,430 --> 01:12:19,360
yeah that's great it's tough to do

2134
01:12:23,350 --> 01:12:21,440
multiple things though you find you know

2135
01:12:24,790 --> 01:12:23,360
because you're talking about it

2136
01:12:27,590 --> 01:12:24,800
it takes a lot of time to do all the

2137
01:12:29,669 --> 01:12:27,600
videos and everything and then and then

2138
01:12:30,870 --> 01:12:29,679
trying to do other investigations yeah i

2139
01:12:32,070 --> 01:12:30,880
find getting pulled in different

2140
01:12:33,830 --> 01:12:32,080
directions so

2141
01:12:35,430 --> 01:12:33,840
it's kind of good it's good i'm gonna

2142
01:12:37,270 --> 01:12:35,440
have this and then know to focus on

2143
01:12:39,030 --> 01:12:37,280
turkey ufo etc

2144
01:12:40,709 --> 01:12:39,040
nah that's good man so what about you

2145
01:12:42,709 --> 01:12:40,719
man before we finish up and say goodbye

2146
01:12:45,830 --> 01:12:42,719
what have you got coming up for

2147
01:12:47,990 --> 01:12:45,840
the foreseeable future if anything

2148
01:12:49,669 --> 01:12:48,000
um so friday i'm interviewing leslie

2149
01:12:50,550 --> 01:12:49,679
keane

2150
01:12:53,270 --> 01:12:50,560
author

2151
01:12:55,189 --> 01:12:53,280
yeah she wrote ufos generals

2152
01:12:57,030 --> 01:12:55,199
and government officials go on the

2153
01:12:58,630 --> 01:12:57,040
record ufo generals pilots and

2154
01:13:00,149 --> 01:12:58,640
government officials go on the record

2155
01:13:02,149 --> 01:13:00,159
yeah great book

2156
01:13:03,910 --> 01:13:02,159
i have it right next to me

2157
01:13:05,430 --> 01:13:03,920
do you really yeah i do yeah yeah i've

2158
01:13:06,470 --> 01:13:05,440
got a massive pile of books that i need

2159
01:13:08,390 --> 01:13:06,480
to get through

2160
01:13:10,070 --> 01:13:08,400
do you want me to ask her anything oh

2161
01:13:12,470 --> 01:13:10,080
you haven't read it yet

2162
01:13:14,110 --> 01:13:12,480
no i haven't i haven't read it yet

2163
01:13:15,350 --> 01:13:14,120
just ask her to email me

2164
01:13:17,430 --> 01:13:15,360
[Laughter]

2165
01:13:19,270 --> 01:13:17,440
email you a summary of the book it's

2166
01:13:21,110 --> 01:13:19,280
excellent man no email me to tell her i

2167
01:13:21,990 --> 01:13:21,120
want to speak to her i want to interview

2168
01:13:23,510 --> 01:13:22,000
her um

2169
01:13:25,110 --> 01:13:23,520
i'm still kind of new but i've been

2170
01:13:26,470 --> 01:13:25,120
trying to get through them as much as i

2171
01:13:28,229 --> 01:13:26,480
can and that

2172
01:13:29,750 --> 01:13:28,239
well especially from a pilot perspective

2173
01:13:31,750 --> 01:13:29,760
there's just a ton of pilot stories in

2174
01:13:33,750 --> 01:13:31,760
there there's some good ones from the uk

2175
01:13:36,390 --> 01:13:33,760
the guernsey ones in there

2176
01:13:38,229 --> 01:13:36,400
wow great story yeah every every

2177
01:13:40,550 --> 01:13:38,239
case yeah every chapter is pretty good

2178
01:13:41,830 --> 01:13:40,560
um so yeah i'm talking to her talking to

2179
01:13:43,590 --> 01:13:41,840
her on

2180
01:13:45,350 --> 01:13:43,600
uh friday and then so that should be out

2181
01:13:46,950 --> 01:13:45,360
next week uh writing for the portugal

2182
01:13:49,990 --> 01:13:46,960
news as well

2183
01:13:51,910 --> 01:13:50,000
wow so yeah i think in five months i'll

2184
01:13:53,270 --> 01:13:51,920
get a press pass

2185
01:13:55,270 --> 01:13:53,280
you know so uh

2186
01:13:57,189 --> 01:13:55,280
in turkey maybe get through cut through

2187
01:13:59,590 --> 01:13:57,199
some lines

2188
01:14:01,830 --> 01:13:59,600
dude that's awesome man

2189
01:14:03,430 --> 01:14:01,840
yep exactly and then

2190
01:14:05,189 --> 01:14:03,440
yes turkey ufo

2191
01:14:07,110 --> 01:14:05,199
and then really i'm spending a lot of my

2192
01:14:08,390 --> 01:14:07,120
time on on this i'm working on nft

2193
01:14:14,709 --> 01:14:08,400
project

2194
01:14:17,510 --> 01:14:14,719
that can fund the sky 360 uh initiative

2195
01:14:19,430 --> 01:14:17,520
the avenger initiative you know

2196
01:14:22,149 --> 01:14:19,440
that's what i've been spending a lot of

2197
01:14:24,390 --> 01:14:22,159
you know if i'm not um investigating um

2198
01:14:26,950 --> 01:14:24,400
then i'm working on the nft project

2199
01:14:28,550 --> 01:14:26,960
to try and fund it

2200
01:14:29,990 --> 01:14:28,560
awesome man

2201
01:14:32,229 --> 01:14:30,000
yeah

2202
01:14:33,669 --> 01:14:32,239
i love it absolutely and i i'll put all

2203
01:14:35,030 --> 01:14:33,679
your links in the description of the

2204
01:14:37,430 --> 01:14:35,040
video so everyone can come and follow

2205
01:14:39,510 --> 01:14:37,440
you check out your work subscribe follow

2206
01:14:41,510 --> 01:14:39,520
and and everything but i have to just

2207
01:14:43,189 --> 01:14:41,520
thank you so much for joining me um i've

2208
01:14:45,830 --> 01:14:43,199
had a great conversation a great start

2209
01:14:48,310 --> 01:14:45,840
to 2022. so thank you so much excellent

2210
01:14:50,149 --> 01:14:48,320
man sorry about my technical

2211
01:14:51,590 --> 01:14:50,159
technical issues but always great to

2212
01:14:54,870 --> 01:14:51,600
have you man thanks thanks for inviting

2213
01:14:57,669 --> 01:14:54,880
me on and uh good luck in colombia

2214
01:15:01,189 --> 01:14:59,669
we'll speak behind the scenes man

2215
01:15:03,030 --> 01:15:01,199
awesome

2216
01:15:05,430 --> 01:15:03,040
all right chris for now take care my

2217
01:15:07,110 --> 01:15:05,440
friend and uh we'll speak soon

2218
01:15:10,790 --> 01:15:07,120
all right and thanks everybody watching

2219
01:15:11,910 --> 01:15:10,800
uh take care see ya

2220
01:15:14,070 --> 01:15:11,920
awesome

2221
01:15:16,149 --> 01:15:14,080
oh man that was great

2222
01:15:17,830 --> 01:15:16,159
we had these things happen these

2223
01:15:20,470 --> 01:15:17,840
technical issues but we got through the

2224
01:15:22,630 --> 01:15:20,480
majority of that conversation um

2225
01:15:24,630 --> 01:15:22,640
absolutely fantastic

2226
01:15:26,790 --> 01:15:24,640
um i had a blast it's a great first

2227
01:15:29,030 --> 01:15:26,800
showback for 2022.

2228
01:15:30,950 --> 01:15:29,040
i'm really hyped for what we got coming

2229
01:15:33,110 --> 01:15:30,960
up so um

2230
01:15:35,910 --> 01:15:33,120
yeah guys thank you so much for everyone

2231
01:15:37,910 --> 01:15:35,920
in the live chat and i guess everyone

2232
01:15:39,510 --> 01:15:37,920
that will listen to this afterwards this

2233
01:15:40,630 --> 01:15:39,520
will be going out through that ufo

2234
01:15:44,870 --> 01:15:40,640
podcast

2235
01:15:46,870 --> 01:15:44,880
in the next few days

2236
01:15:48,950 --> 01:15:46,880
so yeah excited for that that

2237
01:15:51,669 --> 01:15:48,960
collaboration that will become the

2238
01:15:53,910 --> 01:15:51,679
anomalous podcast network in february

2239
01:15:56,229 --> 01:15:53,920
i'm so happy to be a part of that uh

2240
01:15:57,990 --> 01:15:56,239
such great dudes andy dan and and all

2241
01:16:00,229 --> 01:15:58,000
the other shows that are going to be on

2242
01:16:02,149 --> 01:16:00,239
the network graeme rendell and dave

2243
01:16:04,390 --> 01:16:02,159
partridge's new show

2244
01:16:06,630 --> 01:16:04,400
dan zetterstrom the signal's got his own

2245
01:16:09,350 --> 01:16:06,640
podcast coming out and then

2246
01:16:11,669 --> 01:16:09,360
priscilla quantum witch cafe is a part

2247
01:16:13,990 --> 01:16:11,679
of the network as well so so much stuff

2248
01:16:16,470 --> 01:16:14,000
for you guys to dig into

2249
01:16:18,550 --> 01:16:16,480
um as far as this youtube channel on

2250
01:16:20,229 --> 01:16:18,560
saturday i'm going to be premiering

2251
01:16:23,750 --> 01:16:20,239
premiering an interview with adam

2252
01:16:26,870 --> 01:16:23,760
goldsack from uap media uk

2253
01:16:29,830 --> 01:16:26,880
um a huge advocate for

2254
01:16:31,590 --> 01:16:29,840
the uop subject through twitter and

2255
01:16:33,750 --> 01:16:31,600
and things like that you probably or you

2256
01:16:35,750 --> 01:16:33,760
might know him as andreas freeman's

2257
01:16:37,990 --> 01:16:35,760
style on twitter if you're a part of the

2258
01:16:39,350 --> 01:16:38,000
ufo twitter community so that i'm

2259
01:16:40,790 --> 01:16:39,360
recording that interview tomorrow but

2260
01:16:41,910 --> 01:16:40,800
we're going to drop it as a premiere on

2261
01:16:44,390 --> 01:16:41,920
saturday

2262
01:16:46,070 --> 01:16:44,400
um next week

2263
01:16:48,310 --> 01:16:46,080
i think it's next week i'll put the

2264
01:16:50,709 --> 01:16:48,320
dates out on my social medias um i'm

2265
01:16:52,709 --> 01:16:50,719
interviewing gunter hofer gunther i had

2266
01:16:56,229 --> 01:16:52,719
on the channel last year to discuss the

2267
01:16:58,070 --> 01:16:56,239
ariel school case in zimbabwe from 1994.

2268
01:16:59,990 --> 01:16:58,080
he was a part of the research team that

2269
01:17:03,669 --> 01:17:00,000
were on site a couple of days after that

2270
01:17:05,830 --> 01:17:03,679
case with john mack um cynthia hind

2271
01:17:07,990 --> 01:17:05,840
so gunther's coming back on next week to

2272
01:17:10,310 --> 01:17:08,000
discuss other cases in africa over the

2273
01:17:11,990 --> 01:17:10,320
decades so a lot of cases that we've not

2274
01:17:14,070 --> 01:17:12,000
heard about before so i'm certainly

2275
01:17:16,630 --> 01:17:14,080
going to learn a lot from that

2276
01:17:18,950 --> 01:17:16,640
that same week i'm gonna have a round

2277
01:17:20,470 --> 01:17:18,960
table with the guys from uapx that we

2278
01:17:22,870 --> 01:17:20,480
chatted about tonight so i'm gonna have

2279
01:17:24,790 --> 01:17:22,880
gary voorhees i'm gonna have jason

2280
01:17:27,669 --> 01:17:24,800
turner um and some of the other guys

2281
01:17:29,669 --> 01:17:27,679
hopefully join us for a panel discussion

2282
01:17:31,510 --> 01:17:29,679
uh on what you apx have been up to in

2283
01:17:33,350 --> 01:17:31,520
2021 what we've got to look forward to

2284
01:17:36,149 --> 01:17:33,360
in 2022

2285
01:17:38,950 --> 01:17:36,159
then on the 17th i am going to be live

2286
01:17:41,430 --> 01:17:38,960
with a colonel john alexander

2287
01:17:43,030 --> 01:17:41,440
from ned's skinwalker ranch remote

2288
01:17:45,110 --> 01:17:43,040
viewing the guy's a legend in this

2289
01:17:47,270 --> 01:17:45,120
subject we don't get to hear from him

2290
01:17:48,950 --> 01:17:47,280
that often so i'm really blessed to be

2291
01:17:50,709 --> 01:17:48,960
able to speak to him we just haven't

2292
01:17:52,149 --> 01:17:50,719
decided if it's going to be live here on

2293
01:17:54,229 --> 01:17:52,159
youtube or if we're going to put it out

2294
01:17:55,590 --> 01:17:54,239
a little bit later as a premiere as well

2295
01:17:56,870 --> 01:17:55,600
but you guys if you follow me on my

2296
01:17:59,030 --> 01:17:56,880
social medias you'll get all that

2297
01:18:01,270 --> 01:17:59,040
information and i guess that's it i just

2298
01:18:03,030 --> 01:18:01,280
want to say thank you this has been my

2299
01:18:04,870 --> 01:18:03,040
first video back from the new year so it

2300
01:18:05,990 --> 01:18:04,880
feels a little bit new again

2301
01:18:08,070 --> 01:18:06,000
thank you to everyone that's watched

2302
01:18:08,950 --> 01:18:08,080
tonight live and for everyone that hears

2303
01:18:12,310 --> 01:18:08,960
this

2304
01:18:14,229 --> 01:18:12,320
going out on the podcast audio only

2305
01:18:15,270 --> 01:18:14,239
thank you for tuning in and i look

2306
01:18:17,350 --> 01:18:15,280
forward to

2307
01:18:20,229 --> 01:18:17,360
you guys being with me for my journey